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Flight crew of a C550 learned after the flight that the FAA was investigating the flight for involvement in a conflict with a lear jet 25. However, the rptrs have no recollection of a problem except for thinking that it was unusual during the climb in IMC to be given 2 heading changes after being established on their assigned heading.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 419979 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199811 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sgf airport : sgf |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zkc |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 310 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 419979 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 420653 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 38500 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
On nov/xa/98 while en route from springfield, mo, to williamsport, PA, at FL370 in ZKC's control, we were given a 10 degree turn. After being established on the heading, we were given another 15 degree turn to the same direction. We were never informed that there was a conflict or advised that we had done something wrong by ATC. It has now come out that our flight is being inquired by the FAA on a possible aircraft conflict situation. We do not understand why there weren't any references made regarding a problem by ATC if something actually was close. In addition, we are now open to litigation by the FAA for something we didn't even know we had done wrong. I believe if there actually was a problem, ATC would have advised us at the appropriate time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A C550 LEARNED AFTER THE FLT THAT THE FAA WAS INVESTIGATING THE FLT FOR INVOLVEMENT IN A CONFLICT WITH A LEAR JET 25. HOWEVER, THE RPTRS HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF A PROB EXCEPT FOR THINKING THAT IT WAS UNUSUAL DURING THE CLB IN IMC TO BE GIVEN 2 HDG CHANGES AFTER BEING ESTABLISHED ON THEIR ASSIGNED HDG.
Narrative: ON NOV/XA/98 WHILE ENRTE FROM SPRINGFIELD, MO, TO WILLIAMSPORT, PA, AT FL370 IN ZKC'S CTL, WE WERE GIVEN A 10 DEG TURN. AFTER BEING ESTABLISHED ON THE HDG, WE WERE GIVEN ANOTHER 15 DEG TURN TO THE SAME DIRECTION. WE WERE NEVER INFORMED THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT OR ADVISED THAT WE HAD DONE SOMETHING WRONG BY ATC. IT HAS NOW COME OUT THAT OUR FLT IS BEING INQUIRED BY THE FAA ON A POSSIBLE ACFT CONFLICT SIT. WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WEREN'T ANY REFS MADE REGARDING A PROB BY ATC IF SOMETHING ACTUALLY WAS CLOSE. IN ADDITION, WE ARE NOW OPEN TO LITIGATION BY THE FAA FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD DONE WRONG. I BELIEVE IF THERE ACTUALLY WAS A PROB, ATC WOULD HAVE ADVISED US AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.