BE33 penetrated class B airspace at phx without clearance.

Attributes
ACN	419080
Time
Date	199811
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pxr airport : phx
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ffz
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Bonanza 33
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 108 flight time total : 9808 flight time type : 90
ASRS Report	419080
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While instructing a private pilot working on a commercial certificate, I gave him a problem to solve. Departing sdl overflying ffz en route to land at iwa, I had the student climb to 3700 ft MSL. We had previously discussed this situation before the flight and I pointed out the phx class B airspace and how to stay out of it. Upon departure from sdl, I took control momentarily and headed towards ffz. The student took control and reflected the routing we discussed earlier. Feeling comfortable with the student's awareness and initial turn, I began getting ATIS for ffz and iwa. I then contacted ffz with a courtesy call as I knew we were above their class D airspace. It was at this moment that I discovered we had cut the northern corner of the phx class B airspace which begins at 3000 ft MSL, northern limit along indian bend road between pima road and gilbert road (approximately pxr 040 degree radial 10 DME). I immediately made a left turn but it was too late. During the debriefing, I had a lengthy discussion with the student. He stated that he thought 'I' wanted him to fly direct to ffz. I informed him regardless of what he thought 'I' wanted, it was his responsibility to avoid class B airspace without proper clearance. This is a typical situation of the student trying to be clairvoyant and not practical. Needless to say, I will be more observant of what is happening during class B airspace transitioning.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: BE33 PENETRATED CLASS B AIRSPACE AT PHX WITHOUT CLRNC.

Narrative: WHILE INSTRUCTING A PVT PLT WORKING ON A COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATE, I GAVE HIM A PROB TO SOLVE. DEPARTING SDL OVERFLYING FFZ ENRTE TO LAND AT IWA, I HAD THE STUDENT CLB TO 3700 FT MSL. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS SIT BEFORE THE FLT AND I POINTED OUT THE PHX CLASS B AIRSPACE AND HOW TO STAY OUT OF IT. UPON DEP FROM SDL, I TOOK CTL MOMENTARILY AND HEADED TOWARDS FFZ. THE STUDENT TOOK CTL AND REFLECTED THE ROUTING WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH THE STUDENT'S AWARENESS AND INITIAL TURN, I BEGAN GETTING ATIS FOR FFZ AND IWA. I THEN CONTACTED FFZ WITH A COURTESY CALL AS I KNEW WE WERE ABOVE THEIR CLASS D AIRSPACE. IT WAS AT THIS MOMENT THAT I DISCOVERED WE HAD CUT THE NORTHERN CORNER OF THE PHX CLASS B AIRSPACE WHICH BEGINS AT 3000 FT MSL, NORTHERN LIMIT ALONG INDIAN BEND ROAD BTWN PIMA ROAD AND GILBERT ROAD (APPROX PXR 040 DEG RADIAL 10 DME). I IMMEDIATELY MADE A L TURN BUT IT WAS TOO LATE. DURING THE DEBRIEFING, I HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH THE STUDENT. HE STATED THAT HE THOUGHT 'I' WANTED HIM TO FLY DIRECT TO FFZ. I INFORMED HIM REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE THOUGHT 'I' WANTED, IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO AVOID CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT PROPER CLRNC. THIS IS A TYPICAL SIT OF THE STUDENT TRYING TO BE CLAIRVOYANT AND NOT PRACTICAL. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WILL BE MORE OBSERVANT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING DURING CLASS B AIRSPACE TRANSITIONING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.