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An air carrier PIC offers the jump seat to a pilot category when an over sale occurs at the gate. Identify was not checked until later and after the flight is under way the PIC finds that the pilot that responded to the offer of a jump seat ride was not an air carrier pilot as the offer implied.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 411770 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 411770 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
Narrative:
I had just started push back in phoenix, az, for a flight to indianapolis, in, when a gate agent and a very concerned looking unaccompanied minor showed up in the jetway. I had the plane towed back to the gate to pick up the unaccompanied minor. Once onboard, I heard the flight attendants and gate agent mention that there were no more seats. It occurred to me that there might be someone onboard that could ride the jump seat. I made an announcement asking for a company air carrier pilot or other pilots. (I don't recall the exact words.) I got a volunteer and was able to seat the unaccompanied minor in coach. I presumed the pilot was from an air carrier, but we were already late, I did not check idents. En route I discovered he was not from an air carrier, but was a pilot (probably a GA pilot).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PIC OFFERS THE JUMP SEAT TO A PLT CATEGORY WHEN AN OVER SALE OCCURS AT THE GATE. IDENT WAS NOT CHKED UNTIL LATER AND AFTER THE FLT IS UNDER WAY THE PIC FINDS THAT THE PLT THAT RESPONDED TO THE OFFER OF A JUMP SEAT RIDE WAS NOT AN ACR PLT AS THE OFFER IMPLIED.
Narrative: I HAD JUST STARTED PUSH BACK IN PHOENIX, AZ, FOR A FLT TO INDIANAPOLIS, IN, WHEN A GATE AGENT AND A VERY CONCERNED LOOKING UNACCOMPANIED MINOR SHOWED UP IN THE JETWAY. I HAD THE PLANE TOWED BACK TO THE GATE TO PICK UP THE UNACCOMPANIED MINOR. ONCE ONBOARD, I HEARD THE FLT ATTENDANTS AND GATE AGENT MENTION THAT THERE WERE NO MORE SEATS. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE ONBOARD THAT COULD RIDE THE JUMP SEAT. I MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ASKING FOR A COMPANY ACR PLT OR OTHER PLTS. (I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT WORDS.) I GOT A VOLUNTEER AND WAS ABLE TO SEAT THE UNACCOMPANIED MINOR IN COACH. I PRESUMED THE PLT WAS FROM AN ACR, BUT WE WERE ALREADY LATE, I DID NOT CHK IDENTS. ENRTE I DISCOVERED HE WAS NOT FROM AN ACR, BUT WAS A PLT (PROBABLY A GA PLT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.