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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 409750 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fld |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 409750 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During special event, NOTAM depicts an arrival VFR aircraft should use in order to avoid madison and milwaukee class C airspace. Fld is used for overflow traffic when osh is full. No mention of fld arrs/departures on the NOTAM. I noticed considerable confusion on the airport as to whether or not fld arrs/departure should use the depicted arrival, and to what degree. Suggest next yr's NOTAM be more specific regarding fld/directions of use/rtes for various inbounds and outbounds. I asked 2 FSS briefers and 3 controllers, none knew if notamed arrival/departure routing applied to fld or just to osh.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA C150 PLT OBSERVES CONFUSION IN NON SPECIFIC ARR DEP PROC FOR ARPT EVENT AND REQUESTS CONSIDERATION FOR DEVELOPING ARR DEP PROCS AT OVERFLOW ARPTS.
Narrative: DURING SPECIAL EVENT, NOTAM DEPICTS AN ARR VFR ACFT SHOULD USE IN ORDER TO AVOID MADISON AND MILWAUKEE CLASS C AIRSPACE. FLD IS USED FOR OVERFLOW TFC WHEN OSH IS FULL. NO MENTION OF FLD ARRS/DEPS ON THE NOTAM. I NOTICED CONSIDERABLE CONFUSION ON THE ARPT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT FLD ARRS/DEP SHOULD USE THE DEPICTED ARR, AND TO WHAT DEGREE. SUGGEST NEXT YR'S NOTAM BE MORE SPECIFIC REGARDING FLD/DIRECTIONS OF USE/RTES FOR VARIOUS INBOUNDS AND OUTBOUNDS. I ASKED 2 FSS BRIEFERS AND 3 CTLRS, NONE KNEW IF NOTAMED ARR/DEP ROUTING APPLIED TO FLD OR JUST TO OSH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.