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ARTCC radar developmental controller takes pointout on climbing, cross traffic, but does not recognize potential conflict with his own traffic. Conflict alert activates. Two controller sectors attempt to regain separation, but are unable.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 408455 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu |
| State Reference | KY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 22000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar other personnel other |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 5 controller non radar : 9 controller radar : 9 |
| ASRS Report | 408455 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 25200 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Me and my trainee took a pointout about 10 mi northeast of iiu on a CL60/G(X) filed cvg-iiu-pxv-MOSEY5-stl, and filed for the high altitudes. We were working the low altitudes. At that time, there wasn't any traffic for the CL60/G(X) but around 10 mi west of iiu conflict alert was activated with a CL60/G(Y) northbound at FL220. Turns were issued by both high and low altitude controllers, but loss of separation was the result.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR DEVELOPMENTAL CTLR TAKES POINTOUT ON CLBING, CROSS TFC, BUT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH HIS OWN TFC. CONFLICT ALERT ACTIVATES. TWO CTLR SECTORS ATTEMPT TO REGAIN SEPARATION, BUT ARE UNABLE.
Narrative: ME AND MY TRAINEE TOOK A POINTOUT ABOUT 10 MI NE OF IIU ON A CL60/G(X) FILED CVG-IIU-PXV-MOSEY5-STL, AND FILED FOR THE HIGH ALTS. WE WERE WORKING THE LOW ALTS. AT THAT TIME, THERE WASN'T ANY TFC FOR THE CL60/G(X) BUT AROUND 10 MI W OF IIU CONFLICT ALERT WAS ACTIVATED WITH A CL60/G(Y) NBOUND AT FL220. TURNS WERE ISSUED BY BOTH HIGH AND LOW ALT CTLRS, BUT LOSS OF SEPARATION WAS THE RESULT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.