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An air carrier medium large transport on approach to ord overshot its assigned altitude of 5000 ft. The check pilot in the right seat was PF without benefit of the autoplt or flight director. Says he was tired.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 407720 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4650 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : lga |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 407720 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying as PIC checking out a new captain. He was in left seat, I was in right seat. I am a line check airman. I was flying this segment from right seat, autoplt off, flight director off, descending to 5000 ft. I descended approximately 350 ft below assigned altitude of 5000 ft, then climbed back. Contributing factors: fatigue -- last day of trip, early departure. Both pilots in unfamiliar seats, and my election to not use autoflt system available.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG ON APCH TO ORD OVERSHOT ITS ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT. THE CHK PLT IN THE R SEAT WAS PF WITHOUT BENEFIT OF THE AUTOPLT OR FLT DIRECTOR. SAYS HE WAS TIRED.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AS PIC CHKING OUT A NEW CAPT. HE WAS IN L SEAT, I WAS IN R SEAT. I AM A LINE CHK AIRMAN. I WAS FLYING THIS SEGMENT FROM R SEAT, AUTOPLT OFF, FLT DIRECTOR OFF, DSNDING TO 5000 FT. I DSNDED APPROX 350 FT BELOW ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT, THEN CLBED BACK. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: FATIGUE -- LAST DAY OF TRIP, EARLY DEP. BOTH PLTS IN UNFAMILIAR SEATS, AND MY ELECTION TO NOT USE AUTOFLT SYS AVAILABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.