B727 crew did not make charted altitude crossing restr.

Attributes
ACN	406549
Time
Date	199806
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ord
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 860
ASRS Report	406549
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
ASRS Report	406260
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Takeoff gross weight was 174000 pounds and it was a hot day. We were climbing on the ord departure and did not advise ATC that we would be close on the crossing restr of 4000 ft at 8 DME. At approximately 7.5 DME, we were given a right turn from 180 degrees to 240 degrees and expedite climb through 4000 ft. We complied, reduced speed and ended up crossing 8 DME at about 3500 ft and reached 4000 ft approximately 8.5 DME. I last flew the B737-300 which never has a problem with this restr. In addition, it would help me reinforce the restr if it were prominently and graphically depicted on the departure plate. Most of my departures from ord have not had to deal with this climbing crossing restr.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B727 CREW DID NOT MAKE CHARTED ALT XING RESTR.

Narrative: TKOF GROSS WT WAS 174000 LBS AND IT WAS A HOT DAY. WE WERE CLBING ON THE ORD DEP AND DID NOT ADVISE ATC THAT WE WOULD BE CLOSE ON THE XING RESTR OF 4000 FT AT 8 DME. AT APPROX 7.5 DME, WE WERE GIVEN A R TURN FROM 180 DEGS TO 240 DEGS AND EXPEDITE CLB THROUGH 4000 FT. WE COMPLIED, REDUCED SPD AND ENDED UP XING 8 DME AT ABOUT 3500 FT AND REACHED 4000 FT APPROX 8.5 DME. I LAST FLEW THE B737-300 WHICH NEVER HAS A PROB WITH THIS RESTR. IN ADDITION, IT WOULD HELP ME REINFORCE THE RESTR IF IT WERE PROMINENTLY AND GRAPHICALLY DEPICTED ON THE DEP PLATE. MOST OF MY DEPS FROM ORD HAVE NOT HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS CLBING XING RESTR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.