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Crew members on B727 to roa all claim the controller issued clearance to 4000 ft but controller believes clearance was to 5000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 405860 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199806 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : roa |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : roa |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 405860 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X gso to roa. Flight from gso to roa is very short and is flown at 10000 ft. When switched from gso to roa approach we were told to descend to 4000 ft. Approximately 20 mi south of roa and level at 4000 ft, approach control said 'I see you level at 4000 ft, I wanted you at 5000 ft.' we apologized but all 3 crew members agreed that we were told to descend to 4000 ft. The controller said that no traffic conflict existed and he was not sure what altitude I read back to him. Flight ended without further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW MEMBERS ON B727 TO ROA ALL CLAIM THE CTLR ISSUED CLRNC TO 4000 FT BUT CTLR BELIEVES CLRNC WAS TO 5000 FT.
Narrative: ACR X GSO TO ROA. FLT FROM GSO TO ROA IS VERY SHORT AND IS FLOWN AT 10000 FT. WHEN SWITCHED FROM GSO TO ROA APCH WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO 4000 FT. APPROX 20 MI S OF ROA AND LEVEL AT 4000 FT, APCH CTL SAID 'I SEE YOU LEVEL AT 4000 FT, I WANTED YOU AT 5000 FT.' WE APOLOGIZED BUT ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS AGREED THAT WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO 4000 FT. THE CTLR SAID THAT NO TFC CONFLICT EXISTED AND HE WAS NOT SURE WHAT ALT I READ BACK TO HIM. FLT ENDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.