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PIC report regarding the high frequency of S80 aircraft landing without clearance and his proposed 'fix' for the situation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 401774 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw airport : zzz |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 401774 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The event review team requested suggestions/techniques regarding the recent group of S80 lndgs without clearance. My idea is, once you are cleared to land and only then, turn the landing light/nose to bright/brt. This is regardless of where the aircraft is on the approach -- inside/outside that FAF, landing gear up/down, IFR/VFR. Scatterback is worth the price of a confirmed landing clearance -- downwind or through the 90 degree. Another idea is to rearrange the present landing checklist by making a large space to read flap/slat/tail or flap/slat/tail deice. This would leave the final light blank for cleared to land.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC RPT REGARDING THE HIGH FREQ OF S80 ACFT LNDG WITHOUT CLRNC AND HIS PROPOSED 'FIX' FOR THE SIT.
Narrative: THE EVENT REVIEW TEAM REQUESTED SUGGESTIONS/TECHNIQUES REGARDING THE RECENT GROUP OF S80 LNDGS WITHOUT CLRNC. MY IDEA IS, ONCE YOU ARE CLRED TO LAND AND ONLY THEN, TURN THE LNDG LIGHT/NOSE TO BRIGHT/BRT. THIS IS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE ACFT IS ON THE APCH -- INSIDE/OUTSIDE THAT FAF, LNDG GEAR UP/DOWN, IFR/VFR. SCATTERBACK IS WORTH THE PRICE OF A CONFIRMED LNDG CLRNC -- DOWNWIND OR THROUGH THE 90 DEG. ANOTHER IDEA IS TO REARRANGE THE PRESENT LNDG CHKLIST BY MAKING A LARGE SPACE TO READ FLAP/SLAT/TAIL OR FLAP/SLAT/TAIL DEICE. THIS WOULD LEAVE THE FINAL LIGHT BLANK FOR CLRED TO LAND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.