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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 399820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199804 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : elb |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 24400 msl bound upper : 24400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : lirr |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 399820 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 700 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Climbing to FL280 under radar control on heading 320 degrees. Leaving FL244 received a TCASII RA to descend. TCASII screen showed target 400 ft above and about 1 mi. I descended to FL240. Roma control confirmed our visual sighting of a military fighter aircraft. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated in the callback that they were flying a DC10 and the fighter aircraft was a mirage or tornado type which was coming down the airway. Reporter had been on a vector prior to receiving the TCASII RA and sighting the fighter. Reporter felt that controller did not think the situation was a big deal until reporter informed the controller that reporter was required to file a report because of the TCASII RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN ACR DC10 AND A FOREIGN MIL FIGHTER AT FL240.
Narrative: CLBING TO FL280 UNDER RADAR CTL ON HDG 320 DEGS. LEAVING FL244 RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO DSND. TCASII SCREEN SHOWED TARGET 400 FT ABOVE AND ABOUT 1 MI. I DSNDED TO FL240. ROMA CTL CONFIRMED OUR VISUAL SIGHTING OF A MIL FIGHTER ACFT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED IN THE CALLBACK THAT THEY WERE FLYING A DC10 AND THE FIGHTER ACFT WAS A MIRAGE OR TORNADO TYPE WHICH WAS COMING DOWN THE AIRWAY. RPTR HAD BEEN ON A VECTOR PRIOR TO RECEIVING THE TCASII RA AND SIGHTING THE FIGHTER. RPTR FELT THAT CTLR DID NOT THINK THE SIT WAS A BIG DEAL UNTIL RPTR INFORMED THE CTLR THAT RPTR WAS REQUIRED TO FILE A RPT BECAUSE OF THE TCASII RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.