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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 399756 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199804 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6100 msl bound upper : 6100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : las tower : ind |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 399756 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was providing OJT on the stadium sector at las TRACON. Air carrier a, a B737, was being vectored on base leg to runway 25L, descending to 5600 ft and became in conflict with air carrier B, a B737, on visual approach to runway 25R. I took over the position and instructed air carrier B to cancel approach clearance, maintain 6100 ft, and I issued traffic. Air carrier B did not report air carrier a in sight. I vectored air carrier B right to 050 degrees. Separation standard was lost between air carrier B and air carrier a before air carrier B was established in the right turn. Human performance: the sector was busy when we took over. I gave the trainee too much latitude in his decision to vector air carrier a in front of air carrier B. I should have vectored air carrier B initially before issuing traffic which may have ensured standard separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN 2 ACR B737'S ON APCH TO LAS.
Narrative: I WAS PROVIDING OJT ON THE STADIUM SECTOR AT LAS TRACON. ACR A, A B737, WAS BEING VECTORED ON BASE LEG TO RWY 25L, DSNDING TO 5600 FT AND BECAME IN CONFLICT WITH ACR B, A B737, ON VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25R. I TOOK OVER THE POS AND INSTRUCTED ACR B TO CANCEL APCH CLRNC, MAINTAIN 6100 FT, AND I ISSUED TFC. ACR B DID NOT RPT ACR A IN SIGHT. I VECTORED ACR B R TO 050 DEGS. SEPARATION STANDARD WAS LOST BTWN ACR B AND ACR A BEFORE ACR B WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE R TURN. HUMAN PERFORMANCE: THE SECTOR WAS BUSY WHEN WE TOOK OVER. I GAVE THE TRAINEE TOO MUCH LATITUDE IN HIS DECISION TO VECTOR ACR A IN FRONT OF ACR B. I SHOULD HAVE VECTORED ACR B INITIALLY BEFORE ISSUING TFC WHICH MAY HAVE ENSURED STANDARD SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.