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Flight crew of an air carrier medium large transport failed to turn as assigned by departure resulting in less than legal separation with a DH8.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 397016 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dca |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 397016 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb out, departure gave us a climb from our initial altitude (5000 ft, I believe) and a turn from 270 degrees to 340 degrees. I was flying first officer giving a line check to a captain requalifying on the aircraft. The outside air temperature was low and we had the larger -15 type engines. Hence, our climb rate was much greater than normal. The captain became focused on maintaining a climb speed under 250 KIAS, and missed the turn given by ATC. Climbing above 8500 ft we received an RA and spotted a dash 8 ahead. Called ATC with traffic in sight. It was then that we realized we hadn't turned. The cause in this case was a common one. 2 pilots, each in seats they weren't 100% proficient in. A distraction for one that distracted the other (me). Lesson learned -- keep flying the airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR MLG FAILED TO TURN AS ASSIGNED BY DEP RESULTING IN LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION WITH A DH8.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT, DEP GAVE US A CLB FROM OUR INITIAL ALT (5000 FT, I BELIEVE) AND A TURN FROM 270 DEGS TO 340 DEGS. I WAS FLYING FO GIVING A LINE CHK TO A CAPT REQUALIFYING ON THE ACFT. THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP WAS LOW AND WE HAD THE LARGER -15 TYPE ENGS. HENCE, OUR CLB RATE WAS MUCH GREATER THAN NORMAL. THE CAPT BECAME FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING A CLB SPD UNDER 250 KIAS, AND MISSED THE TURN GIVEN BY ATC. CLBING ABOVE 8500 FT WE RECEIVED AN RA AND SPOTTED A DASH 8 AHEAD. CALLED ATC WITH TFC IN SIGHT. IT WAS THEN THAT WE REALIZED WE HADN'T TURNED. THE CAUSE IN THIS CASE WAS A COMMON ONE. 2 PLTS, EACH IN SEATS THEY WEREN'T 100% PROFICIENT IN. A DISTR FOR ONE THAT DISTRACTED THE OTHER (ME). LESSON LEARNED -- KEEP FLYING THE AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.