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A climbing large transport fails to make assigned altitude within the 3 min time allotment set by ATC. Controller vectors aircraft for traffic spacing while air carrier X is climbing through FL400 for FL410.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 393410 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199801 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zid |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 40000 msl bound upper : 41000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 393410 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
At FL370 center asked if we can make our requested altitude, FL410, in 3 mins. The captain tells me to say yes. I realize it will be close, and acknowledge center. Center clears us to FL410. I acknowledge and punch my clock, the captain uses a speed reduction immediately and maximum continuos power to try and make it. At XX30 on my clock and passing about FL400, center gives us a left turn and says 'you never could make it in 3 mins, could you?' or something to that effect. With the turn we leveled in 4 mins. We didn't get quite the performance we thought we would get, but never had the chance to advise center we would be a little late.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CLBING LGT FAILS TO MAKE ASSIGNED ALT WITHIN THE 3 MIN TIME ALLOTMENT SET BY ATC. CTLR VECTORS ACFT FOR TFC SPACING WHILE ACR X IS CLBING THROUGH FL400 FOR FL410.
Narrative: AT FL370 CTR ASKED IF WE CAN MAKE OUR REQUESTED ALT, FL410, IN 3 MINS. THE CAPT TELLS ME TO SAY YES. I REALIZE IT WILL BE CLOSE, AND ACKNOWLEDGE CTR. CTR CLRS US TO FL410. I ACKNOWLEDGE AND PUNCH MY CLOCK, THE CAPT USES A SPD REDUCTION IMMEDIATELY AND MAX CONTINUOS PWR TO TRY AND MAKE IT. AT XX30 ON MY CLOCK AND PASSING ABOUT FL400, CTR GIVES US A L TURN AND SAYS 'YOU NEVER COULD MAKE IT IN 3 MINS, COULD YOU?' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WITH THE TURN WE LEVELED IN 4 MINS. WE DIDN'T GET QUITE THE PERFORMANCE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET, BUT NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO ADVISE CTR WE WOULD BE A LITTLE LATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.