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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 388877 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199712 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pxr |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 3 |
| ASRS Report | 388877 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 25500 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Very busy period of traffic and training ongoing on right side. Low side asked for higher on EA32 and I gave them FL260. The BE90 was at FL250. The slow rate of climb of the EA32 made the BE90 traffic. I attempted to call low side to get the EA32 stopped at FL240 and got no response. I then called again and still no response. I then yelled the instructions to low side but they were turning the EA32 and the turn wasn't quite tight enough. I believe part of the problem was that the low side was doing a briefing and would not respond to my initial calls. And with the changing of controllers there was a lack of critical communication at a crucial time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN CLBING EA32 AND BE90 AT FL250.
Narrative: VERY BUSY PERIOD OF TFC AND TRAINING ONGOING ON R SIDE. LOW SIDE ASKED FOR HIGHER ON EA32 AND I GAVE THEM FL260. THE BE90 WAS AT FL250. THE SLOW RATE OF CLB OF THE EA32 MADE THE BE90 TFC. I ATTEMPTED TO CALL LOW SIDE TO GET THE EA32 STOPPED AT FL240 AND GOT NO RESPONSE. I THEN CALLED AGAIN AND STILL NO RESPONSE. I THEN YELLED THE INSTRUCTIONS TO LOW SIDE BUT THEY WERE TURNING THE EA32 AND THE TURN WASN'T QUITE TIGHT ENOUGH. I BELIEVE PART OF THE PROB WAS THAT THE LOW SIDE WAS DOING A BRIEFING AND WOULD NOT RESPOND TO MY INITIAL CALLS. AND WITH THE CHANGING OF CTLRS THERE WAS A LACK OF CRITICAL COM AT A CRUCIAL TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.