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Private pilot of a PA28-161 enters the phl class B airspace without permission. Pilot was not on frequency and had later received a phone call from approach control supervisor regarding his entry. The call was 'educational.' the supervisor actually made excuses for the pilot regarding the 'wind and turbulence.'
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 381550 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199709 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mxe airport : n43 |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v28 |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 33 flight time total : 205 flight time type : 80 |
| ASRS Report | 381550 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On sep/xa/97 I was flying a cadet PA28-161 in the area of mxe VOR. I was on a return cross country from newport news, va, when I apparently entered the edge of phl's class B airspace by accident. When I returned to my home airport in N43, I was given a message to call phl approach. I immediately called and was xferred to phl's ATC manager. He told me the call was only an educational call and that I had penetrated phl's class B airspace. He told me that he understood how light a cherokee is and he also knew how bad the wind and turbulence was and that it would be very easy to accidentally be blown into the airspace. Again, he said it was only an educational phone call. I apologized and thanked him for the call and we hung up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT PLT OF A PA28-161 ENTERS THE PHL CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT PERMISSION. PLT WAS NOT ON FREQ AND HAD LATER RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM APCH CTL SUPVR REGARDING HIS ENTRY. THE CALL WAS 'EDUCATIONAL.' THE SUPVR ACTUALLY MADE EXCUSES FOR THE PLT REGARDING THE 'WIND AND TURB.'
Narrative: ON SEP/XA/97 I WAS FLYING A CADET PA28-161 IN THE AREA OF MXE VOR. I WAS ON A RETURN XCOUNTRY FROM NEWPORT NEWS, VA, WHEN I APPARENTLY ENTERED THE EDGE OF PHL'S CLASS B AIRSPACE BY ACCIDENT. WHEN I RETURNED TO MY HOME ARPT IN N43, I WAS GIVEN A MESSAGE TO CALL PHL APCH. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED AND WAS XFERRED TO PHL'S ATC MGR. HE TOLD ME THE CALL WAS ONLY AN EDUCATIONAL CALL AND THAT I HAD PENETRATED PHL'S CLASS B AIRSPACE. HE TOLD ME THAT HE UNDERSTOOD HOW LIGHT A CHEROKEE IS AND HE ALSO KNEW HOW BAD THE WIND AND TURB WAS AND THAT IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO ACCIDENTALLY BE BLOWN INTO THE AIRSPACE. AGAIN, HE SAID IT WAS ONLY AN EDUCATIONAL PHONE CALL. I APOLOGIZED AND THANKED HIM FOR THE CALL AND WE HUNG UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.