Flight crew of light transport commuter is told to go first for landing by aircraft on final. When turning base they sight the other aircraft at one quarter to one half mi, same altitude. Too close for their comfort.

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Attributes
ACN	379650
Time
Date	199709
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : acv
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Route In Use	approach : straight in approach : visual
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	379650
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were on downwind (left) for runway 32 on a visual approach. Another aircraft was on final. The other aircraft said, 'go ahead and land first, I'll follow.' so we turned left base and in the turn, the first officer (who was flying) saw that other aircraft and said it looked very close. Estimated 1/4 - 1/2 mi and same altitude. Not my idea of safe spacing. We didn't have that aircraft in sight when he said 'go ahead, land first.' we were letting that other aircraft provide separation, because he said he had us in sight. (Next time I'll be more courteous and insist other aircraft go first!)

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF LTT COMMUTER IS TOLD TO GO FIRST FOR LNDG BY ACFT ON FINAL. WHEN TURNING BASE THEY SIGHT THE OTHER ACFT AT ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF MI, SAME ALT. TOO CLOSE FOR THEIR COMFORT.

Narrative: WE WERE ON DOWNWIND (L) FOR RWY 32 ON A VISUAL APCH. ANOTHER ACFT WAS ON FINAL. THE OTHER ACFT SAID, 'GO AHEAD AND LAND FIRST, I'LL FOLLOW.' SO WE TURNED L BASE AND IN THE TURN, THE FO (WHO WAS FLYING) SAW THAT OTHER ACFT AND SAID IT LOOKED VERY CLOSE. ESTIMATED 1/4 - 1/2 MI AND SAME ALT. NOT MY IDEA OF SAFE SPACING. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ACFT IN SIGHT WHEN HE SAID 'GO AHEAD, LAND FIRST.' WE WERE LETTING THAT OTHER ACFT PROVIDE SEPARATION, BECAUSE HE SAID HE HAD US IN SIGHT. (NEXT TIME I'LL BE MORE COURTEOUS AND INSIST OTHER ACFT GO FIRST!)

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.