First officer of a B727 failed to make a crossing restr due to not increasing the rate of descent du...

Attributes
ACN	373069
Time
Date	199706
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ord
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zau
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	373069
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
ASRS Report	373070
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were on the bradford 3 arrival to ord. We had been issued a clearance to cross 50 mi southwest of ord at 11000 ft. The first officer was flying. When we were about 70 mi southwest, I began to get concerned that the first officer had misunderstood the clearance. I repeated to him that the clearance was to cross 50 mi southwest at 11000 ft. He acknowledged and affirmed that he would make it. However, the rate of descent was never increased sufficiently to make the restr. This was approximately XA35Z. I mistakenly let the situation go to the point where we were unable to make the restr. In the future, I will act sooner and get more concrete information from the other pilot on what they intend to do to resolve the situation so that we will have time to correct any misunderstandings. Supplemental information from acn 373070: missed by 3 mi. No radio call from ATC indicating a problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FO OF A B727 FAILED TO MAKE A XING RESTR DUE TO NOT INCREASING THE RATE OF DSCNT DUE TO A TAILWIND.

Narrative: WE WERE ON THE BRADFORD 3 ARR TO ORD. WE HAD BEEN ISSUED A CLRNC TO CROSS 50 MI SW OF ORD AT 11000 FT. THE FO WAS FLYING. WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 70 MI SW, I BEGAN TO GET CONCERNED THAT THE FO HAD MISUNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC. I REPEATED TO HIM THAT THE CLRNC WAS TO CROSS 50 MI SW AT 11000 FT. HE ACKNOWLEDGED AND AFFIRMED THAT HE WOULD MAKE IT. HOWEVER, THE RATE OF DSCNT WAS NEVER INCREASED SUFFICIENTLY TO MAKE THE RESTR. THIS WAS APPROX XA35Z. I MISTAKENLY LET THE SIT GO TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE UNABLE TO MAKE THE RESTR. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL ACT SOONER AND GET MORE CONCRETE INFO FROM THE OTHER PLT ON WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO TO RESOLVE THE SIT SO THAT WE WILL HAVE TIME TO CORRECT ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 373070: MISSED BY 3 MI. NO RADIO CALL FROM ATC INDICATING A PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

First officer of a B727 failed to make a crossing restr due to not increasing the rate of descent due to a tailwind.