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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 372918 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 247 flight time total : 21600 flight time type : 18300 |
| ASRS Report | 372918 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We (#1) were cleared a visual approach to runway 24R at lax. An L1011 (#2) was cleared a visual approach to runway 24L, and to pass behind us for that approach. When we rolled out on final, we found the L1011 (#2) on our right wing. We felt we could not go right or descend to get to runway 24R. Finally, lax tower cleared the L1011 (#2) to land runway 24R and us (#1) to land runway 24L, since we ended up on the left side of the other aircraft (#2). Since #2 was a heavy aircraft, we (#1) were sent around for possible wake turbulence. We then made a normal approach and landing. #2 aircraft either mistook some other aircraft for #1, or misjudged getting behind and to the left of #1. Either way, #2 ended up on the right side of #1, instead of the left side.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 ACFT CLRED FOR APCH TO RWY 24R WITH AN L1011 CLRED TO FOLLOW THE B737. THE L1011 ACFT CUT IN FRONT OF AND TO THE R OF RPTR B737 AND REQUESTED TO LAND ON RWY 24R. BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE ACFT THE L1011 WAS CLRED TO LAND ON THE R AND THE B737 WAS GIVEN A GAR.
Narrative: WE (#1) WERE CLRED A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R AT LAX. AN L1011 (#2) WAS CLRED A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24L, AND TO PASS BEHIND US FOR THAT APCH. WHEN WE ROLLED OUT ON FINAL, WE FOUND THE L1011 (#2) ON OUR R WING. WE FELT WE COULD NOT GO R OR DSND TO GET TO RWY 24R. FINALLY, LAX TWR CLRED THE L1011 (#2) TO LAND RWY 24R AND US (#1) TO LAND RWY 24L, SINCE WE ENDED UP ON THE L SIDE OF THE OTHER ACFT (#2). SINCE #2 WAS A HVY ACFT, WE (#1) WERE SENT AROUND FOR POSSIBLE WAKE TURB. WE THEN MADE A NORMAL APCH AND LNDG. #2 ACFT EITHER MISTOOK SOME OTHER ACFT FOR #1, OR MISJUDGED GETTING BEHIND AND TO THE L OF #1. EITHER WAY, #2 ENDED UP ON THE R SIDE OF #1, INSTEAD OF THE L SIDE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.