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An air carrier DC9 flight crew performing an lda approach start an unauthorized transition to line up with the runway approximately 2 pt 6 mi too soon. There was no conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 370578 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fxd airport : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : stl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 370578 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On lda/DME runway 30L at stl broke out of clouds at 7.0 mi fix. Maneuvered aircraft towards runway, runway was in sight visual conditions. Traffic ahead and to right landing runway 30R was in sight. Tower queried us on our track, we were south of runway 30L centerline maneuvering. Tower asked if we had traffic in sight, we assured him we did. Landed without incident. When clearing runway, tower asked us to call them via land line. Contacted tower, they said there was no conflict or loss of separation. Yet they indicated correctly that we should have stayed on lda course to 4.4 DME then maneuver to the runway. There are notes on the plate to this effect. We reviewed these yet the sight of the runway allowed us to maneuver early for landing. I was captain of the flight, was giving IOE to transitioning captain on this airplane. The moral is to give every note on the approach plate due diligence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR DC9 FLC PERFORMING AN LDA APCH START AN UNAUTH TRANSITION TO LINE UP WITH THE RWY APPROX 2 PT 6 MI TOO SOON. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT.
Narrative: ON LDA/DME RWY 30L AT STL BROKE OUT OF CLOUDS AT 7.0 MI FIX. MANEUVERED ACFT TOWARDS RWY, RWY WAS IN SIGHT VISUAL CONDITIONS. TFC AHEAD AND TO R LNDG RWY 30R WAS IN SIGHT. TWR QUERIED US ON OUR TRACK, WE WERE S OF RWY 30L CTRLINE MANEUVERING. TWR ASKED IF WE HAD TFC IN SIGHT, WE ASSURED HIM WE DID. LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. WHEN CLRING RWY, TWR ASKED US TO CALL THEM VIA LAND LINE. CONTACTED TWR, THEY SAID THERE WAS NO CONFLICT OR LOSS OF SEPARATION. YET THEY INDICATED CORRECTLY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE STAYED ON LDA COURSE TO 4.4 DME THEN MANEUVER TO THE RWY. THERE ARE NOTES ON THE PLATE TO THIS EFFECT. WE REVIEWED THESE YET THE SIGHT OF THE RWY ALLOWED US TO MANEUVER EARLY FOR LNDG. I WAS CAPT OF THE FLT, WAS GIVING IOE TO TRANSITIONING CAPT ON THIS AIRPLANE. THE MORAL IS TO GIVE EVERY NOTE ON THE APCH PLATE DUE DILIGENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.