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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 369130 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 369130 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were issued a clearance to climb from 3000 ft to 10000 ft. This caused a TCASII RA due to converging VFR traffic at 3500 ft. After climb was initiated, the TCASII commanded a descent. ATC issued an expedite climb, but we followed the TCASII because the VFR traffic was not in sight. We descended to 2800 ft before we could return the aircraft to a climb. No other deviations were made. Most of my TCASII deviations have occurred in TCA's (class B) with known VFR traffic. I suggest all VFR traffic transiting a class B airspace to be handled as IFR traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ACFT CLBING IN CLASS B AIRSPACE HAD TCASII RA AND FOLLOWED IT BY DSNDING CONTRARY TO DEP CTLR INSTRUCTIONS TO EXPEDITE CLB.
Narrative: WE WERE ISSUED A CLRNC TO CLB FROM 3000 FT TO 10000 FT. THIS CAUSED A TCASII RA DUE TO CONVERGING VFR TFC AT 3500 FT. AFTER CLB WAS INITIATED, THE TCASII COMMANDED A DSCNT. ATC ISSUED AN EXPEDITE CLB, BUT WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII BECAUSE THE VFR TFC WAS NOT IN SIGHT. WE DSNDED TO 2800 FT BEFORE WE COULD RETURN THE ACFT TO A CLB. NO OTHER DEVS WERE MADE. MOST OF MY TCASII DEVS HAVE OCCURRED IN TCA'S (CLASS B) WITH KNOWN VFR TFC. I SUGGEST ALL VFR TFC TRANSITING A CLASS B AIRSPACE TO BE HANDLED AS IFR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.