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PIC of a B727-200 allows an overweight landing to be made. The extra weight was from accidental over fueling at departure airport. PIC accepted the extra fuel after the fact and had the so enter a non overweight figure in logbook at destination airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 364512 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | controller non radar : 8 controller radar : 8 flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6900 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 364512 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
The B727 we fly has a maximum landing weight of 150000 pounds. We were coming in from cancun to stl. In cancun we were over fueled by the local fueler. By the time I ran outside to tell him to stop we had received an extra 3000 pounds. The captain seemed bothered at first but said let's go. I thought that he would know to burn this fuel that was extra. He was aware of the extra fuel throughout the trip. As we got closer to stl it became apparent that we were overweight. It did not bother him. The 150000 pounds landing weight is company imposed, the plane's structural limit has a higher landing weight. Knowing this I did not make too much of an objection. We landed 2000+ pounds overweight. He told me to adjust the number to under 149.9 for the company. This was wrong and I should have objected more strongly. Next time I will be more firm in my position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF A B727-200 ALLOWS AN OVERWT LNDG TO BE MADE. THE EXTRA WT WAS FROM ACCIDENTAL OVER FUELING AT DEP ARPT. PIC ACCEPTED THE EXTRA FUEL AFTER THE FACT AND HAD THE SO ENTER A NON OVERWT FIGURE IN LOGBOOK AT DEST ARPT.
Narrative: THE B727 WE FLY HAS A MAX LNDG WT OF 150000 LBS. WE WERE COMING IN FROM CANCUN TO STL. IN CANCUN WE WERE OVER FUELED BY THE LCL FUELER. BY THE TIME I RAN OUTSIDE TO TELL HIM TO STOP WE HAD RECEIVED AN EXTRA 3000 LBS. THE CAPT SEEMED BOTHERED AT FIRST BUT SAID LET'S GO. I THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD KNOW TO BURN THIS FUEL THAT WAS EXTRA. HE WAS AWARE OF THE EXTRA FUEL THROUGHOUT THE TRIP. AS WE GOT CLOSER TO STL IT BECAME APPARENT THAT WE WERE OVERWT. IT DID NOT BOTHER HIM. THE 150000 LBS LNDG WT IS COMPANY IMPOSED, THE PLANE'S STRUCTURAL LIMIT HAS A HIGHER LNDG WT. KNOWING THIS I DID NOT MAKE TOO MUCH OF AN OBJECTION. WE LANDED 2000+ LBS OVERWT. HE TOLD ME TO ADJUST THE NUMBER TO UNDER 149.9 FOR THE COMPANY. THIS WAS WRONG AND I SHOULD HAVE OBJECTED MORE STRONGLY. NEXT TIME I WILL BE MORE FIRM IN MY POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.