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A C414 turning on a right downwind leg for runway 3L at luk had a near midair collision with an unknown C172 that passed approximately 200 ft below his aircraft eastbound. No TA given by the tower to either aircraft. Both aircraft were 3 pt 5 to 4 NM from the airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 360726 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : luk |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : luk |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Chancellor 414A & C414 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | descent other other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 360726 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On nov/thu/96, I was flying my cessna 414A on an IFR flight in VMC inbound to luk. I was cleared for a visual approach after being vectored for traffic by approach control. I was handed off to the tower and cleared to land on runway 3L. As I was configuring the aircraft for the approach and establishing the r- hand downwind leg on a southwest heading slightly prior to being abeam the departure end of the runway, a single engine cessna passed underneath me eastbound. The tower had not informed me of the traffic nor informed the single engine aircraft of my position. I called the tower and said, 'I don't know if you are talking to him but a high wing cessna just flew under me.' we were both in the control zone yet neither of us were informed of the other's position by the tower. After landing and once on ground control, I queried the controller as to whether they had been talking to the single engine cessna when it flew under me. The controller indicated that an aircraft had departed prior to my arrival, eastbound, and that it was probably him. I indicated that the traffic surprised me because I was unaware of its presence. TA's from the tower would certainly contribute positively toward air safety in the control zone. Also, we pilots must exercise vigilance even in controled airspace in VMC to avoid other traffic. I assumed the tower would advise me of any traffic that could be of potential conflict in controled airspace but I guess I was wrong.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C414 TURNING ON A R DOWNWIND LEG FOR RWY 3L AT LUK HAD A NMAC WITH AN UNKNOWN C172 THAT PASSED APPROX 200 FT BELOW HIS ACFT EBOUND. NO TA GIVEN BY THE TWR TO EITHER ACFT. BOTH ACFT WERE 3 PT 5 TO 4 NM FROM THE ARPT.
Narrative: ON NOV/THU/96, I WAS FLYING MY CESSNA 414A ON AN IFR FLT IN VMC INBOUND TO LUK. I WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH AFTER BEING VECTORED FOR TFC BY APCH CTL. I WAS HANDED OFF TO THE TWR AND CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 3L. AS I WAS CONFIGURING THE ACFT FOR THE APCH AND ESTABLISHING THE R- HAND DOWNWIND LEG ON A SW HEADING SLIGHTLY PRIOR TO BEING ABEAM THE DEP END OF THE RWY, A SINGLE ENG CESSNA PASSED UNDERNEATH ME EBOUND. THE TWR HAD NOT INFORMED ME OF THE TFC NOR INFORMED THE SINGLE ENG ACFT OF MY POS. I CALLED THE TWR AND SAID, 'I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE TALKING TO HIM BUT A HIGH WING CESSNA JUST FLEW UNDER ME.' WE WERE BOTH IN THE CTL ZONE YET NEITHER OF US WERE INFORMED OF THE OTHER'S POS BY THE TWR. AFTER LNDG AND ONCE ON GND CTL, I QUERIED THE CTLR AS TO WHETHER THEY HAD BEEN TALKING TO THE SINGLE ENG CESSNA WHEN IT FLEW UNDER ME. THE CTLR INDICATED THAT AN ACFT HAD DEPARTED PRIOR TO MY ARR, EBOUND, AND THAT IT WAS PROBABLY HIM. I INDICATED THAT THE TFC SURPRISED ME BECAUSE I WAS UNAWARE OF ITS PRESENCE. TA'S FROM THE TWR WOULD CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TOWARD AIR SAFETY IN THE CTL ZONE. ALSO, WE PLTS MUST EXERCISE VIGILANCE EVEN IN CTLED AIRSPACE IN VMC TO AVOID OTHER TFC. I ASSUMED THE TWR WOULD ADVISE ME OF ANY TFC THAT COULD BE OF POTENTIAL CONFLICT IN CTLED AIRSPACE BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.