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Heading track position deviation in holding pattern procedure. First officer makes a 360 degree turn instead of compensating for the strong winds aloft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 357830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199701 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : grd |
| State Reference | SC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl tower : dtw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12800 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 357830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Entered holding at unarm intersection. I reported entering hold to ATC, then left frequency to advise company and passenger of holding delay. When I finished I saw the first officer had continued turn into a 360 degree turn the strong winds aloft blew us out of protected airspace. We then received vectors for the arrival and proceeded to clt. I misjudged the situation by assuming an experienced first officer (20 yrs of airline flying both as first officer and captain) could fly a holding pattern. I am trained to allow the PF to fly and the PNF takes care of the radios, PA's and other administrative duties. Regarding this situation these policies and maybe some CRM assumptions need to be rethought.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HEADING TRACK POS DEV IN HOLDING PATTERN PROC. FO MAKES A 360 DEG TURN INSTEAD OF COMPENSATING FOR THE STRONG WINDS ALOFT.
Narrative: ENTERED HOLDING AT UNARM INTXN. I RPTED ENTERING HOLD TO ATC, THEN LEFT FREQ TO ADVISE COMPANY AND PAX OF HOLDING DELAY. WHEN I FINISHED I SAW THE FO HAD CONTINUED TURN INTO A 360 DEG TURN THE STRONG WINDS ALOFT BLEW US OUT OF PROTECTED AIRSPACE. WE THEN RECEIVED VECTORS FOR THE ARR AND PROCEEDED TO CLT. I MISJUDGED THE SIT BY ASSUMING AN EXPERIENCED FO (20 YRS OF AIRLINE FLYING BOTH AS FO AND CAPT) COULD FLY A HOLDING PATTERN. I AM TRAINED TO ALLOW THE PF TO FLY AND THE PNF TAKES CARE OF THE RADIOS, PA'S AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES. REGARDING THIS SIT THESE POLICIES AND MAYBE SOME CRM ASSUMPTIONS NEED TO BE RETHOUGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.