Near midair collision between an small aircraft sel and 2 military huey UH1 helicopters in an uninhabited and remote area. Since the military helicopter are hard to see because of camouflage, he believes that the area should be designated an MOA to help alert civilian pilots to the possible presence of military aircraft.

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Attributes
ACN	352102
Time
Date	199610
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : o27
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Iroquois 204 (Huey)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	352102
Person 2
Affiliation	government : military
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : military
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 300 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Routine pleasure flight. Encountered UH1 (military) helicopter in hog hill and gopher ridge area. Helicopter was flying north of ridge and I didn't see him (camouflage) until he was past me. Both of us routinely use this area as it is completely uninhabited. The military helicopters that frequent this area (military), a non MOA, are very difficult to see. Perhaps there should be a MOA here so people flying have warning.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BTWN AN SMA SEL AND 2 MIL HUEY UH1 HELIS IN AN UNINHABITED AND REMOTE AREA. SINCE THE MIL HELI ARE HARD TO SEE BECAUSE OF CAMOUFLAGE, HE BELIEVES THAT THE AREA SHOULD BE DESIGNATED AN MOA TO HELP ALERT CIVILIAN PLTS TO THE POSSIBLE PRESENCE OF MIL ACFT.

Narrative: ROUTINE PLEASURE FLT. ENCOUNTERED UH1 (MIL) HELI IN HOG HILL AND GOPHER RIDGE AREA. HELI WAS FLYING N OF RIDGE AND I DIDN'T SEE HIM (CAMOUFLAGE) UNTIL HE WAS PAST ME. BOTH OF US ROUTINELY USE THIS AREA AS IT IS COMPLETELY UNINHABITED. THE MIL HELIS THAT FREQUENT THIS AREA (MIL), A NON MOA, ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE. PERHAPS THERE SHOULD BE A MOA HERE SO PEOPLE FLYING HAVE WARNING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.