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Upon arrival at moose intersection via the tul 209 degree radial and 139 DME (dfw bowie 1 arrival), an air carrier flight crew noted that the course deviation indicator was full left of scale when the ukw VOR 015 degree radial was selected. The ARTCC radar controller told the crew that they were off course and informed them that other crews were also having trouble with this intersection.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 350240 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199610 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tul |
| State Reference | OK |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tower : yvr |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zfw |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 350240 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On the bowie 1 arrival, tul transition, we arrived at moose intersection on the tul 209 degree radial and 139 NM. The ukw 015 degree radial at 50 NM was full deflection left, and ATC called us 8 mi west of course. Clearly the radials that define the moose intersection of tul and ukw require adjustment. The controller acknowledged the arrival problem and cleared us direct to ukw. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this reporter feels that the flight crew received confirmation that they had not made an error when the controller told them, 'yeah, a lot of folks are having trouble there.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UPON ARR AT MOOSE INTXN VIA THE TUL 209 DEG RADIAL AND 139 DME (DFW BOWIE 1 ARR), AN ACR FLC NOTED THAT THE COURSE DEV INDICATOR WAS FULL L OF SCALE WHEN THE UKW VOR 015 DEG RADIAL WAS SELECTED. THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR TOLD THE CREW THAT THEY WERE OFF COURSE AND INFORMED THEM THAT OTHER CREWS WERE ALSO HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS INTXN.
Narrative: ON THE BOWIE 1 ARR, TUL TRANSITION, WE ARRIVED AT MOOSE INTXN ON THE TUL 209 DEG RADIAL AND 139 NM. THE UKW 015 DEG RADIAL AT 50 NM WAS FULL DEFLECTION L, AND ATC CALLED US 8 MI W OF COURSE. CLRLY THE RADIALS THAT DEFINE THE MOOSE INTXN OF TUL AND UKW REQUIRE ADJUSTMENT. THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED THE ARR PROB AND CLRED US DIRECT TO UKW. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS RPTR FEELS THAT THE FLC RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT THEY HAD NOT MADE AN ERROR WHEN THE CTLR TOLD THEM, 'YEAH, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE HAVING TROUBLE THERE.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.