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Training flight in cessna T337G. Request FL180, cleared 3000 ft and heading 360 degrees. Began a discussion on the aircraft and queried by controller as to altitude 4800 ft. Cleared to maintain 4800 ft and contact center for higher.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 348520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199609 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ads |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skymaster |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 56 flight time total : 1446 flight time type : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 348520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This was a training flight with an instructor for a centerline thrust check out, high altitude endorsement and aircraft chkout in a cessna T337G (pressurized). My time in the aircraft before the incident was 1.5 dual. Before takeoff, I programmed the s-tec 65 flight director altitude selector/alerter for 18000 ft. Normally I use a suction cup bug attached to the face of the altimeter to help me remember assigned altitudes. I did not have it with me on this day. After takeoff we contacted departure (124.3), told the controller we were at 1500 ft and wanted to go to 18000 ft. We were temporarily assigned 3000 ft and a 360 degree heading. I turned on the flight director and set the heading bug for 360 degrees. The instructor and I started our discussion on how everything works in the airplane. Suddenly, we were called by the controller informing us that we were at 4800 ft not 3000 ft as assigned. The controller told us to stay at 4800 ft and call ZFW to continue our flight. The rest of the flight was uneventful and went as planned. This event was caused by my not being familiar with the aircraft and its system, conversations with the instructor at the wrong time, not using an altitude bug as I normally do and not paying attention.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING FLT IN CESSNA T337G. REQUEST FL180, CLRED 3000 FT AND HDG 360 DEGS. BEGAN A DISCUSSION ON THE ACFT AND QUERIED BY CTLR AS TO ALT 4800 FT. CLRED TO MAINTAIN 4800 FT AND CONTACT CTR FOR HIGHER.
Narrative: THIS WAS A TRAINING FLT WITH AN INSTRUCTOR FOR A CTRLINE THRUST CHK OUT, HIGH ALT ENDORSEMENT AND ACFT CHKOUT IN A CESSNA T337G (PRESSURIZED). MY TIME IN THE ACFT BEFORE THE INCIDENT WAS 1.5 DUAL. BEFORE TKOF, I PROGRAMMED THE S-TEC 65 FLT DIRECTOR ALT SELECTOR/ALERTER FOR 18000 FT. NORMALLY I USE A SUCTION CUP BUG ATTACHED TO THE FACE OF THE ALTIMETER TO HELP ME REMEMBER ASSIGNED ALTS. I DID NOT HAVE IT WITH ME ON THIS DAY. AFTER TKOF WE CONTACTED DEP (124.3), TOLD THE CTLR WE WERE AT 1500 FT AND WANTED TO GO TO 18000 FT. WE WERE TEMPORARILY ASSIGNED 3000 FT AND A 360 DEG HDG. I TURNED ON THE FLT DIRECTOR AND SET THE HDG BUG FOR 360 DEGS. THE INSTRUCTOR AND I STARTED OUR DISCUSSION ON HOW EVERYTHING WORKS IN THE AIRPLANE. SUDDENLY, WE WERE CALLED BY THE CTLR INFORMING US THAT WE WERE AT 4800 FT NOT 3000 FT AS ASSIGNED. THE CTLR TOLD US TO STAY AT 4800 FT AND CALL ZFW TO CONTINUE OUR FLT. THE REST OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL AND WENT AS PLANNED. THIS EVENT WAS CAUSED BY MY NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH THE ACFT AND ITS SYS, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INSTRUCTOR AT THE WRONG TIME, NOT USING AN ALT BUG AS I NORMALLY DO AND NOT PAYING ATTN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.