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Altitude deviation. Instructor pilot briefing student on approach procedures during descent, both distracted and descended through assigned altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 345550 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199608 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cmh |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 1940 flight time type : 40 |
| ASRS Report | 345550 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was directed to descend from 9000 ft MSL to 4000 ft MSL between 30-40 NM from our final destination by ZID. Had started to be radar vectored and was told to expect the osu NDB runway 27L. During the latter part of the descent I was talking to my student on some part of the approach procedure, and we saw we had descended through to 3300 ft MSL. I requested 3000 ft but was told I was assigned 4000 ft. The student was distraction by our conversation, and I should not have allowed myself to be distraction by trying to 'work in' one more instructional tip. The student is in IFR training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV. INSTRUCTOR PLT BRIEFING STUDENT ON APCH PROCS DURING DSCNT, BOTH DISTRACTED AND DSNDED THROUGH ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS DIRECTED TO DSND FROM 9000 FT MSL TO 4000 FT MSL BTWN 30-40 NM FROM OUR FINAL DEST BY ZID. HAD STARTED TO BE RADAR VECTORED AND WAS TOLD TO EXPECT THE OSU NDB RWY 27L. DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE DSCNT I WAS TALKING TO MY STUDENT ON SOME PART OF THE APCH PROC, AND WE SAW WE HAD DSNDED THROUGH TO 3300 FT MSL. I REQUESTED 3000 FT BUT WAS TOLD I WAS ASSIGNED 4000 FT. THE STUDENT WAS DISTR BY OUR CONVERSATION, AND I SHOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED MYSELF TO BE DISTR BY TRYING TO 'WORK IN' ONE MORE INSTRUCTIONAL TIP. THE STUDENT IS IN IFR TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.