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Flying the civet profile to runway 25L, lax, we were informed we were low crossing fuelr intersection. A xchk of our instruments, ie, GS and altimeter, showed compliance with published altitudes. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter was flying a B727-200 and he said that he had crossed fuelr at 8000 ft, he thought, because he had set the altitude alerter at 8000 ft for the restr. The reporter said that he usually used the GS to descend after being cleared for the approach and he just watched to make sure that he made the restrs by leveling off until past each waypoint. He then stated that he probably was not more than 300 ft low because the altitude alert did not go off. The reporter said that he was not aware of a problem with this approach until someone from corp legal informed him that the FAA had called the company and that he should file a NASA report. He said that he dislikes using us for this purpose, but he now has no choice. This analyst briefed the reporter on the ASRS program and on the problems recently encountered with fuelr and why everyone was concerned with the altitude separation there. The reporter said that it may be of benefit to extend the civet STAR to include fuelr and this analyst told him that one of our analysts had recommended that. In the meantime, the reporter's company has issued a bulletin on the fuelr situation and he said that everyone was now aware of the requirements.

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Title: AN ACR FLC WAS ACCUSED OF XING FUELR INTXN AT 7600 FT VERSUS THE 8000 FT REQUIRED.

Narrative: FLYING THE CIVET PROFILE TO RWY 25L, LAX, WE WERE INFORMED WE WERE LOW XING FUELR INTXN. A XCHK OF OUR INSTS, IE, GS AND ALTIMETER, SHOWED COMPLIANCE WITH PUBLISHED ALTS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR WAS FLYING A B727-200 AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD CROSSED FUELR AT 8000 FT, HE THOUGHT, BECAUSE HE HAD SET THE ALT ALERTER AT 8000 FT FOR THE RESTR. THE RPTR SAID THAT HE USUALLY USED THE GS TO DSND AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE APCH AND HE JUST WATCHED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE MADE THE RESTRS BY LEVELING OFF UNTIL PAST EACH WAYPOINT. HE THEN STATED THAT HE PROBABLY WAS NOT MORE THAN 300 FT LOW BECAUSE THE ALT ALERT DID NOT GO OFF. THE RPTR SAID THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE OF A PROB WITH THIS APCH UNTIL SOMEONE FROM CORP LEGAL INFORMED HIM THAT THE FAA HAD CALLED THE COMPANY AND THAT HE SHOULD FILE A NASA RPT. HE SAID THAT HE DISLIKES USING US FOR THIS PURPOSE, BUT HE NOW HAS NO CHOICE. THIS ANALYST BRIEFED THE RPTR ON THE ASRS PROGRAM AND ON THE PROBS RECENTLY ENCOUNTERED WITH FUELR AND WHY EVERYONE WAS CONCERNED WITH THE ALT SEPARATION THERE. THE RPTR SAID THAT IT MAY BE OF BENEFIT TO EXTEND THE CIVET STAR TO INCLUDE FUELR AND THIS ANALYST TOLD HIM THAT ONE OF OUR ANALYSTS HAD RECOMMENDED THAT. IN THE MEANTIME, THE RPTR'S COMPANY HAS ISSUED A BULLETIN ON THE FUELR SIT AND HE SAID THAT EVERYONE WAS NOW AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.