<< >> NASA ASRS Report 343000, August 1996

Cleared taxi runway 27L hold short M-5. Cleared to tower approaching M-5 and failed to hold short M-5. Tower cleared into position runway 27L and hold, then cleared for takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	343000
Time
Date	199608
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 80000 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	343000
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

When taxing out of gate, ground control said taxi runway 27L via taxiway F hold short of M-5 on taxiway M. Approaching M-5 ground said contact tower 120.75. We did, but we didn't hold short of M-5. Tower said taxi into position and hold runway 27L, and then cleared us for takeoff. Ground never said anything about not holding short of M-5 and it was not until after takeoff that I realized that we didn't hold short. I don't think that ground control still wanted us to hold short when he told us to contact tower, but I thought I would report it anyway. Problem: bad phraseology.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLRED TAXI RWY 27L HOLD SHORT M-5. CLRED TO TWR APCHING M-5 AND FAILED TO HOLD SHORT M-5. TWR CLRED INTO POS RWY 27L AND HOLD, THEN CLRED FOR TKOF.

Narrative: WHEN TAXING OUT OF GATE, GND CTL SAID TAXI RWY 27L VIA TXWY F HOLD SHORT OF M-5 ON TXWY M. APCHING M-5 GND SAID CONTACT TWR 120.75. WE DID, BUT WE DIDN'T HOLD SHORT OF M-5. TWR SAID TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 27L, AND THEN CLRED US FOR TKOF. GND NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NOT HOLDING SHORT OF M-5 AND IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER TKOF THAT I REALIZED THAT WE DIDN'T HOLD SHORT. I DON'T THINK THAT GND CTL STILL WANTED US TO HOLD SHORT WHEN HE TOLD US TO CONTACT TWR, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD RPT IT ANYWAY. PROB: BAD PHRASEOLOGY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.