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Mdt flight crew following navigation indications on arrival is told they turned too soon at intersection. Preoccupied with the error they delayed descent and had to make a 270 degree turn to final.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 342110 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199607 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orf |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf tower : mia |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 490 |
| ASRS Report | 342110 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
While descending into norfolk on the terks 2 arrival, I was instructed to turn to a 170 degree heading at terks. When terks flashed and disappeared on the display I turned to a 170 degree heading. A moment later the controller said that I had turned too early by 5 mi. Note: aircraft was indicating 320 KTS and was at 14000 ft MSL (2.7 mi high). Aircraft will automatically lead the turn. After talking with the controller I was later cleared a visual and was so preoccupied with the previous incident that I started my descent late for runway 5 at orf (norfolk, va) and had to do a 270 degree turn to join the final.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT FLC FOLLOWING NAV INDICATIONS ON ARR IS TOLD THEY TURNED TOO SOON AT INTXN. PREOCCUPIED WITH THE ERROR THEY DELAYED DSCNT AND HAD TO MAKE A 270 DEG TURN TO FINAL.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING INTO NORFOLK ON THE TERKS 2 ARR, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN TO A 170 DEG HDG AT TERKS. WHEN TERKS FLASHED AND DISAPPEARED ON THE DISPLAY I TURNED TO A 170 DEG HDG. A MOMENT LATER THE CTLR SAID THAT I HAD TURNED TOO EARLY BY 5 MI. NOTE: ACFT WAS INDICATING 320 KTS AND WAS AT 14000 FT MSL (2.7 MI HIGH). ACFT WILL AUTOMATICALLY LEAD THE TURN. AFTER TALKING WITH THE CTLR I WAS LATER CLRED A VISUAL AND WAS SO PREOCCUPIED WITH THE PREVIOUS INCIDENT THAT I STARTED MY DSCNT LATE FOR RWY 5 AT ORF (NORFOLK, VA) AND HAD TO DO A 270 DEG TURN TO JOIN THE FINAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.