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Reporter aircraft cleared by center to 10000 ft, confirmed by readback and flight crew. When reporter was at 10000 ft and on approach control frequency, they were asked if center had cleared them to that altitude. Apparent center to approach controller coordination problem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 337175 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ind |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ind tracon : ind |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : ind |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| ASRS Report | 337175 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Cleared by ZID, direct to muncie, and to cross 30 NM northeast of ind at 10000 ft. This was read back, set in altitude alerter and the clearance read back and altitude alerter set with 10000 ft was verbally confirmed by first officer (PF). After handoff to ind approach and level at 10000 ft, ind approach asked us if we were cleared to 10000 ft, we said yes -- by center. I called approach back to ask for confirmation that we were indeed cleared to 10000 ft correctly by center. Approach responded affirmatively that we were cleared to 10000 ft by center. This report is to report this occurrence in the event that the confirmation by approach control at ind that we descended correctly to 10000 ft was given just to avoid crew preoccupation or for the possibility that the confirmation was itself wrong.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ACFT CLRED BY CTR TO 10000 FT, CONFIRMED BY READBACK AND FLC. WHEN RPTR WAS AT 10000 FT AND ON APCH CTL FREQ, THEY WERE ASKED IF CTR HAD CLRED THEM TO THAT ALT. APPARENT CTR TO APCH CTLR COORD PROB.
Narrative: CLRED BY ZID, DIRECT TO MUNCIE, AND TO CROSS 30 NM NE OF IND AT 10000 FT. THIS WAS READ BACK, SET IN ALT ALERTER AND THE CLRNC READ BACK AND ALT ALERTER SET WITH 10000 FT WAS VERBALLY CONFIRMED BY FO (PF). AFTER HDOF TO IND APCH AND LEVEL AT 10000 FT, IND APCH ASKED US IF WE WERE CLRED TO 10000 FT, WE SAID YES -- BY CTR. I CALLED APCH BACK TO ASK FOR CONFIRMATION THAT WE WERE INDEED CLRED TO 10000 FT CORRECTLY BY CTR. APCH RESPONDED AFFIRMATIVELY THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 10000 FT BY CTR. THIS RPT IS TO RPT THIS OCCURRENCE IN THE EVENT THAT THE CONFIRMATION BY APCH CTL AT IND THAT WE DSNDED CORRECTLY TO 10000 FT WAS GIVEN JUST TO AVOID CREW PREOCCUPATION OR FOR THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE CONFIRMATION WAS ITSELF WRONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.