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The flight crew failed to reset their altimeters climbing through the 4000 ft european transition altitude. Consequently, when told to level at FL140 they leveled at FL144. The traffic controller did not say anything about the error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 336184 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : epl airport : cdg |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14420 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : lfff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 4900 flight time type : 70 |
| ASRS Report | 336184 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 270 |
| ASRS Report | 336100 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After departure from cdg (charles degaulle), leveled at FL140, and neglected to set altimeter to 29.92 (10.13). When passing transition altitude local altimeter setting was .999 MB resulting in a 400 ft error at FL140. Supplemental information from acn 336100: the first officer was on his first european trip and was still trying to figure out the procedures. The aircraft had an INS (most of our B727's don't) and both the front seaters were trying to figure that out since neither were familiar, their attention was diverted. I (the flight engineer) was busy with the required paperwork and radio calls above 10000 ft (no excuse as to why I didn't notice earlier as I had on previous legs) and checklist design. The altimeter setting is on the altimeters checklist which is performed at 18000 ft MSL. There is no provision on the checklist to accomplish this during early climb out procedures as is needed in international flying. Fixes, front seaters should (in an ideal world) reset their altimeters immediately when cleared above the transition altitude. Also, the after takeoff checklist could be amended to include this procedure for international flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FLC FAILED TO RESET THEIR ALTIMETERS CLBING THROUGH THE 4000 FT EUROPEAN TRANSITION ALT. CONSEQUENTLY, WHEN TOLD TO LEVEL AT FL140 THEY LEVELED AT FL144. THE TFC CTLR DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ERROR.
Narrative: AFTER DEP FROM CDG (CHARLES DEGAULLE), LEVELED AT FL140, AND NEGLECTED TO SET ALTIMETER TO 29.92 (10.13). WHEN PASSING TRANSITION ALT LCL ALTIMETER SETTING WAS .999 MB RESULTING IN A 400 FT ERROR AT FL140. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 336100: THE FO WAS ON HIS FIRST EUROPEAN TRIP AND WAS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCS. THE ACFT HAD AN INS (MOST OF OUR B727'S DON'T) AND BOTH THE FRONT SEATERS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT SINCE NEITHER WERE FAMILIAR, THEIR ATTN WAS DIVERTED. I (THE FE) WAS BUSY WITH THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK AND RADIO CALLS ABOVE 10000 FT (NO EXCUSE AS TO WHY I DIDN'T NOTICE EARLIER AS I HAD ON PREVIOUS LEGS) AND CHKLIST DESIGN. THE ALTIMETER SETTING IS ON THE ALTIMETERS CHKLIST WHICH IS PERFORMED AT 18000 FT MSL. THERE IS NO PROVISION ON THE CHKLIST TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DURING EARLY CLBOUT PROCS AS IS NEEDED IN INTL FLYING. FIXES, FRONT SEATERS SHOULD (IN AN IDEAL WORLD) RESET THEIR ALTIMETERS IMMEDIATELY WHEN CLRED ABOVE THE TRANSITION ALT. ALSO, THE AFTER TKOF CHKLIST COULD BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS PROC FOR INTL FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.