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The reporter took off runway 19 and avoided clouds by crossing back and forth across the ILS as he climbed out towards another aircraft IFR inbound on the ILS. The alb approach controller saw the opposite direction traffic on his radar and vectored his IFR traffic off the ILS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335368 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gfl |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 2900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : alb |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 335368 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 900 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We departed runway 19 VFR and were sbound climbing at 120 KTS at 1000 FPM, announcing and monitoring CTAF 123.00. In order to avoid the clouds we first deviated to the east and then back to the west, perhaps 20 degrees each side of due south. We heard no announcing incoming traffic and maintained cloud separation at all times. At about 4 mi out we changed over to alb and heard a dialog indicating that approach had diverted an incoming IFR flight because we had zigzagged across the inbound ILS course and we actually passed right over ganse at about 2900 ft. The GS intercept there is 2000 ft. The other craft was vectored back to the final and landed without incident. The incoming pilot commented 'that was close' and alb agreed and he further commented that he couldn't believe we were VFR. Alb said he was busy and signed off without further comment. I don't know whether any reports were filed or not. We never saw each other and I climbed to 10500 ft on a heading 210 degrees and flew home to blm in new jersey without incident. There was no issue of airspace violation and we violated no FARS but I certainly was foolish not to have realized that I was outbound on a favored inbound IFR routing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE RPTR TOOK OFF RWY 19 AND AVOIDED CLOUDS BY XING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE ILS AS HE CLBED OUT TOWARDS ANOTHER ACFT IFR INBOUND ON THE ILS. THE ALB APCH CTLR SAW THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC ON HIS RADAR AND VECTORED HIS IFR TFC OFF THE ILS.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED RWY 19 VFR AND WERE SBOUND CLBING AT 120 KTS AT 1000 FPM, ANNOUNCING AND MONITORING CTAF 123.00. IN ORDER TO AVOID THE CLOUDS WE FIRST DEVIATED TO THE E AND THEN BACK TO THE W, PERHAPS 20 DEGS EACH SIDE OF DUE S. WE HEARD NO ANNOUNCING INCOMING TFC AND MAINTAINED CLOUD SEPARATION AT ALL TIMES. AT ABOUT 4 MI OUT WE CHANGED OVER TO ALB AND HEARD A DIALOG INDICATING THAT APCH HAD DIVERTED AN INCOMING IFR FLT BECAUSE WE HAD ZIGZAGGED ACROSS THE INBOUND ILS COURSE AND WE ACTUALLY PASSED RIGHT OVER GANSE AT ABOUT 2900 FT. THE GS INTERCEPT THERE IS 2000 FT. THE OTHER CRAFT WAS VECTORED BACK TO THE FINAL AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THE INCOMING PLT COMMENTED 'THAT WAS CLOSE' AND ALB AGREED AND HE FURTHER COMMENTED THAT HE COULDN'T BELIEVE WE WERE VFR. ALB SAID HE WAS BUSY AND SIGNED OFF WITHOUT FURTHER COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY RPTS WERE FILED OR NOT. WE NEVER SAW EACH OTHER AND I CLBED TO 10500 FT ON A HDG 210 DEGS AND FLEW HOME TO BLM IN NEW JERSEY WITHOUT INCIDENT. THERE WAS NO ISSUE OF AIRSPACE VIOLATION AND WE VIOLATED NO FARS BUT I CERTAINLY WAS FOOLISH NOT TO HAVE REALIZED THAT I WAS OUTBOUND ON A FAVORED INBOUND IFR ROUTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.