A B737 flight crew received a #2 engine fire warning and were unable to extinguish that warning through the use of emergency procedures. The flight crew did not declare an emergency, but did inform ATC of their situation. While in a modified traffic pattern on a fast to landing, the captain overshot the final approach centerline with nearby traffic on a parallel approach.

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Attributes
ACN	333039
Time
Date	199604
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ict
State Reference	KS
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ict
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 275 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 6500
ASRS Report	333039
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft

Narrative:

On arrival to ict we were just handed off to tower. #2 engine fire warning. While first officer (PNF) ran checklist and secured engine, I notified tower we'd be landing single-engine and requested equipment to be standing by. Didn't declare emergency, but stated we had a fire warning prompting the shutdown. Had to fire both bottles and fire warning handle still illuminated. Expedited to runway 1L at flaps 15 degrees, gear down, and 160 KIAS. At that speed and restricting bank to 15 degrees, it was difficult to keep our turn from a modified downwind and base to final inside of another air carrier's DC9 turning right base to final for runway 1R. I notified tower that my turn would take me slightly through centerline and that I had the DC9 in sight and slightly ahead. There was no conflict, but it was an extra distraction I didn't need right then. Since as far as we knew we still had a fire and the runway was long, I was going fast and I found judging the traffic separation took more concentration than expected. In the future I'll not sound so 'cool' over the radio, declare an emergency and get the tower to move the traffic.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B737 FLC RECEIVED A #2 ENG FIRE WARNING AND WERE UNABLE TO EXTINGUISH THAT WARNING THROUGH THE USE OF EMER PROCS. THE FLC DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER, BUT DID INFORM ATC OF THEIR SIT. WHILE IN A MODIFIED TFC PATTERN ON A FAST TO LNDG, THE CAPT OVERSHOT THE FINAL APCH CTRLINE WITH NEARBY TFC ON A PARALLEL APCH.

Narrative: ON ARR TO ICT WE WERE JUST HANDED OFF TO TWR. #2 ENG FIRE WARNING. WHILE FO (PNF) RAN CHKLIST AND SECURED ENG, I NOTIFIED TWR WE'D BE LNDG SINGLE-ENG AND REQUESTED EQUIP TO BE STANDING BY. DIDN'T DECLARE EMER, BUT STATED WE HAD A FIRE WARNING PROMPTING THE SHUTDOWN. HAD TO FIRE BOTH BOTTLES AND FIRE WARNING HANDLE STILL ILLUMINATED. EXPEDITED TO RWY 1L AT FLAPS 15 DEGS, GEAR DOWN, AND 160 KIAS. AT THAT SPD AND RESTRICTING BANK TO 15 DEGS, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO KEEP OUR TURN FROM A MODIFIED DOWNWIND AND BASE TO FINAL INSIDE OF ANOTHER ACR'S DC9 TURNING R BASE TO FINAL FOR RWY 1R. I NOTIFIED TWR THAT MY TURN WOULD TAKE ME SLIGHTLY THROUGH CTRLINE AND THAT I HAD THE DC9 IN SIGHT AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT, BUT IT WAS AN EXTRA DISTR I DIDN'T NEED RIGHT THEN. SINCE AS FAR AS WE KNEW WE STILL HAD A FIRE AND THE RWY WAS LONG, I WAS GOING FAST AND I FOUND JUDGING THE TFC SEPARATION TOOK MORE CONCENTRATION THAN EXPECTED. IN THE FUTURE I'LL NOT SOUND SO 'COOL' OVER THE RADIO, DECLARE AN EMER AND GET THE TWR TO MOVE THE TFC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.