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Large transport en route from palm beach to lga has VOR problem and controller indicates 6 mi north of course and into an active restr area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 330270 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199603 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ott |
| State Reference | MD |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 500 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 330270 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While en route from palm beach to la guardia, approximately 200 mi south of fak VOR we were given a vector heading for nottingham VOR. Fak VOR was inoperative. Approximately 150 mi south of nottingham we began navigating direct. The entire time we were tuned to nottingham VOR, the radial selected was erratic, causing a continuous movement of the CDI needle. We basically tried to average the deflections and stay somewhere in the middle of the airway. North of nottingham we thought we were navigating on the 052 degree radial which is part of the nanci 5 arrival for la guardia. We were given a heading of 090 degrees by ZDC and told we were 6 mi north of course. They also said we had entered an active restr area. In the interest of safety, it would seem to me if we are expected to thread the needle navigating between active restr areas, the navaids we count on should be much more precise and much better maintained.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT ENRTE FROM PALM BEACH TO LGA HAS VOR PROB AND CTLR INDICATES 6 MI N OF COURSE AND INTO AN ACTIVE RESTR AREA.
Narrative: WHILE ENRTE FROM PALM BEACH TO LA GUARDIA, APPROX 200 MI S OF FAK VOR WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR HDG FOR NOTTINGHAM VOR. FAK VOR WAS INOP. APPROX 150 MI S OF NOTTINGHAM WE BEGAN NAVING DIRECT. THE ENTIRE TIME WE WERE TUNED TO NOTTINGHAM VOR, THE RADIAL SELECTED WAS ERRATIC, CAUSING A CONTINUOUS MOVEMENT OF THE CDI NEEDLE. WE BASICALLY TRIED TO AVERAGE THE DEFLECTIONS AND STAY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIRWAY. N OF NOTTINGHAM WE THOUGHT WE WERE NAVING ON THE 052 DEG RADIAL WHICH IS PART OF THE NANCI 5 ARR FOR LA GUARDIA. WE WERE GIVEN A HDG OF 090 DEGS BY ZDC AND TOLD WE WERE 6 MI N OF COURSE. THEY ALSO SAID WE HAD ENTERED AN ACTIVE RESTR AREA. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF WE ARE EXPECTED TO THREAD THE NEEDLE NAVING BTWN ACTIVE RESTR AREAS, THE NAVAIDS WE COUNT ON SHOULD BE MUCH MORE PRECISE AND MUCH BETTER MAINTAINED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.