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Exiting high speed taxiway, told to hold short of parallel runway. Hold line not readily visible. Aircraft crossed hold line, but short of runway. Hold short line can be made more visible.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 330218 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199603 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 330218 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 235 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5500 |
| ASRS Report | 330204 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 25L at lax turned off at highspd turnoff 'M.' we were cleared to exit the runway and hold short of runway 25R. By the time I stopped the aircraft I realized I had crossed the hold line for runway 25R. As it is a very short distance between runways you reach the hold line for runway 25R in a very short distance and time after exiting. I believe that if the hold line was lighted as it is at many other airports it would have stood out better making it visible at an earlier time when exiting. Supplemental information from acn 330204: we made the high speed turnoff at 'M' at a good rate of speed and by the time we realized where the hold short line for runway 25R was located we had crossed it with the nose of the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EXITING HIGH SPD TXWY, TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF PARALLEL RWY. HOLD LINE NOT READILY VISIBLE. ACFT CROSSED HOLD LINE, BUT SHORT OF RWY. HOLD SHORT LINE CAN BE MADE MORE VISIBLE.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 25L AT LAX TURNED OFF AT HIGHSPD TURNOFF 'M.' WE WERE CLRED TO EXIT THE RWY AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 25R. BY THE TIME I STOPPED THE ACFT I REALIZED I HAD CROSSED THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R. AS IT IS A VERY SHORT DISTANCE BTWN RWYS YOU REACH THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R IN A VERY SHORT DISTANCE AND TIME AFTER EXITING. I BELIEVE THAT IF THE HOLD LINE WAS LIGHTED AS IT IS AT MANY OTHER ARPTS IT WOULD HAVE STOOD OUT BETTER MAKING IT VISIBLE AT AN EARLIER TIME WHEN EXITING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 330204: WE MADE THE HIGH SPD TURNOFF AT 'M' AT A GOOD RATE OF SPD AND BY THE TIME WE REALIZED WHERE THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 25R WAS LOCATED WE HAD CROSSED IT WITH THE NOSE OF THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.