![]() |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 323930 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199510 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tlh |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : tlh tower : csg |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 14 flight time total : 30 flight time type : 30 |
| ASRS Report | 323930 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I am a student pilot and was on my long solo cross country. I approached the tlh airport for a landing. I monitored the ATIS and it reported wind as 010 degrees at 7 KTS. The approach controller advised me to enter left base runway 9. I considered this and decided that I could handle this crosswind. I had started down late and was concentrating on descending, the ride became fairly choppy and I ended up working real hard to get the airplane on the runway. I reached for the microphone to get a wind check and decided that I needed the microphone hand on the yoke. I flared several times because the airplane went up every time I did. I finally got on the ground and taxied in. The FBO had an ASOS phone number posted, which I called. It reported the wind at 010 degrees at 17 KTS. This was well beyond any crosswind that I would have accepted. Now that I have experienced this, I will recognize it sooner and ask for a wind check and different runway. ATC never took it upon themselves to issue wind, even though it was 10 KTS different than on the ATIS. ATC also assigned me, in a light aircraft, to a runway with a 17 KT almost direct crosswind when there was another runway almost directly aligned with the wind. I don't consider this acceptable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWR ASSIGNED STUDENT PLT LNDG CLRNC ON RWY WITH 17 KT XWIND (80 DEG) WHEN THERE WAS AVAILABLE A LNDG RWY ORIENTED ALMOST DIRECTLY INTO THE WIND.
Narrative: I AM A STUDENT PLT AND WAS ON MY LONG SOLO XCOUNTRY. I APCHED THE TLH ARPT FOR A LNDG. I MONITORED THE ATIS AND IT RPTED WIND AS 010 DEGS AT 7 KTS. THE APCH CTLR ADVISED ME TO ENTER L BASE RWY 9. I CONSIDERED THIS AND DECIDED THAT I COULD HANDLE THIS XWIND. I HAD STARTED DOWN LATE AND WAS CONCENTRATING ON DSNDING, THE RIDE BECAME FAIRLY CHOPPY AND I ENDED UP WORKING REAL HARD TO GET THE AIRPLANE ON THE RWY. I REACHED FOR THE MIKE TO GET A WIND CHK AND DECIDED THAT I NEEDED THE MIKE HAND ON THE YOKE. I FLARED SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE AIRPLANE WENT UP EVERY TIME I DID. I FINALLY GOT ON THE GND AND TAXIED IN. THE FBO HAD AN ASOS PHONE NUMBER POSTED, WHICH I CALLED. IT RPTED THE WIND AT 010 DEGS AT 17 KTS. THIS WAS WELL BEYOND ANY XWIND THAT I WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED. NOW THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS, I WILL RECOGNIZE IT SOONER AND ASK FOR A WIND CHK AND DIFFERENT RWY. ATC NEVER TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO ISSUE WIND, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS 10 KTS DIFFERENT THAN ON THE ATIS. ATC ALSO ASSIGNED ME, IN A LIGHT ACFT, TO A RWY WITH A 17 KT ALMOST DIRECT XWIND WHEN THERE WAS ANOTHER RWY ALMOST DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH THE WIND. I DON'T CONSIDER THIS ACCEPTABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.