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A private pilot lines up with the wrong runway during landing and becomes confused by controller's remarks.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 317971 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199510 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mbs |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mbs |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 5 flight time total : 143 flight time type : 17 |
| ASRS Report | 317971 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Positioned improperly for a right turn, for runway 32. I was cleared for a right turn for runway 32. I thought I was setting up for runway 32, actually I was looking at runway 14. The tower instead of assisting me in a helpful way, made remarks such as, 'are you a student pilot?' in a sarcastic way. I knew I was disoriented as to which runway was runway 32. I requested a rejected landing. Saginaw tower replied, 'what is a rejected landing?' I said, 'I didn't want to land, but set up for landing again.' he replied, 'you aren't lined up for runway 32 anyway.' he replied to fly a certain heading, which I did. He stated, 'it's a good thing I don't have any other aircraft right now.' I landed on runway 32, then he wanted me to turn on taxiway B. I inadvertently turned left on runway 23. He remarked I was on the runway. I asked him to assist me to hangar 6. In the past, air traffic controllers have been helpful, even without being asked. Unnecessary and demeaning remarks by the tower controller only added to my confusion. It made flying the aircraft and concentrating on landing more difficult. I was under ATC control 20 NM out, inbound and he could have turned me when he saw what was happening. Instead it got very confusing and made me feel very stupid. Everything came out ok, I didn't allow myself to become rattled. It seems to me he could have been more professional, helpful, and we both would have felt better about the results.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PVT PLT LINES UP WITH THE WRONG RWY DURING LNDG AND BECOMES CONFUSED BY CTLR'S REMARKS.
Narrative: POSITIONED IMPROPERLY FOR A R TURN, FOR RWY 32. I WAS CLRED FOR A R TURN FOR RWY 32. I THOUGHT I WAS SETTING UP FOR RWY 32, ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING AT RWY 14. THE TWR INSTEAD OF ASSISTING ME IN A HELPFUL WAY, MADE REMARKS SUCH AS, 'ARE YOU A STUDENT PLT?' IN A SARCASTIC WAY. I KNEW I WAS DISORIENTED AS TO WHICH RWY WAS RWY 32. I REQUESTED A REJECTED LNDG. SAGINAW TWR REPLIED, 'WHAT IS A REJECTED LNDG?' I SAID, 'I DIDN'T WANT TO LAND, BUT SET UP FOR LNDG AGAIN.' HE REPLIED, 'YOU AREN'T LINED UP FOR RWY 32 ANYWAY.' HE REPLIED TO FLY A CERTAIN HDG, WHICH I DID. HE STATED, 'IT'S A GOOD THING I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ACFT RIGHT NOW.' I LANDED ON RWY 32, THEN HE WANTED ME TO TURN ON TXWY B. I INADVERTENTLY TURNED L ON RWY 23. HE REMARKED I WAS ON THE RWY. I ASKED HIM TO ASSIST ME TO HANGAR 6. IN THE PAST, AIR TFC CTLRS HAVE BEEN HELPFUL, EVEN WITHOUT BEING ASKED. UNNECESSARY AND DEMEANING REMARKS BY THE TWR CTLR ONLY ADDED TO MY CONFUSION. IT MADE FLYING THE ACFT AND CONCENTRATING ON LNDG MORE DIFFICULT. I WAS UNDER ATC CTL 20 NM OUT, INBOUND AND HE COULD HAVE TURNED ME WHEN HE SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. INSTEAD IT GOT VERY CONFUSING AND MADE ME FEEL VERY STUPID. EVERYTHING CAME OUT OK, I DIDN'T ALLOW MYSELF TO BECOME RATTLED. IT SEEMS TO ME HE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE PROFESSIONAL, HELPFUL, AND WE BOTH WOULD HAVE FELT BETTER ABOUT THE RESULTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.