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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 317760 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199510 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 7500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Turbo (Jet) Prop |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 14 |
| ASRS Report | 317760 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 317761 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was instructing my trainee at the time and I believed I heard her issue 8000 ft to an arriving jet. An AC69 was VFR opposite direction at 6500 ft requesting higher because of the rough ride. I instructed my trainee to climb the AC69 to 7500 ft. Traffic was issued. I observed the jet descending below 8000 ft and issued immediate climb instructions. (Ineffective listening techniques.) supplemental information from acn 317761: I was training on the arrival position. I descended the B737 to 7000 ft. The VFR AC69 called at 6500 ft requesting a higher altitude. My instructor thought I issued 8000 ft to the B737 and told me to climb the AC69 to 7500 ft. I did as I was told thinking that maybe I did only go down to 8000 ft with the B737.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR DSNDS ACR THROUGH ALT OF VFR ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS INSTRUCTING MY TRAINEE AT THE TIME AND I BELIEVED I HEARD HER ISSUE 8000 FT TO AN ARRIVING JET. AN AC69 WAS VFR OPPOSITE DIRECTION AT 6500 FT REQUESTING HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE ROUGH RIDE. I INSTRUCTED MY TRAINEE TO CLB THE AC69 TO 7500 FT. TFC WAS ISSUED. I OBSERVED THE JET DSNDING BELOW 8000 FT AND ISSUED IMMEDIATE CLB INSTRUCTIONS. (INEFFECTIVE LISTENING TECHNIQUES.) SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 317761: I WAS TRAINING ON THE ARR POS. I DSNDED THE B737 TO 7000 FT. THE VFR AC69 CALLED AT 6500 FT REQUESTING A HIGHER ALT. MY INSTRUCTOR THOUGHT I ISSUED 8000 FT TO THE B737 AND TOLD ME TO CLB THE AC69 TO 7500 FT. I DID AS I WAS TOLD THINKING THAT MAYBE I DID ONLY GO DOWN TO 8000 FT WITH THE B737.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.