 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Near midair collision -- cpr aircraft has an near midair collision with a C172 that the approach controller has on his scope. Cpr aircraft evades by turning away.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 315101 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199509 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : 3gs airport : 3g3 |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cak |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 315101 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Climbing out from 3g3 en route to 6500 ft VFR to laf after a refuel stop. I contacted akron/canton approach immediately after takeoff requesting VFR flight following in climb to 6500 ft en route to laf. As we approached 3000 ft, we observed a cessna 172, same direction, also climbing, turned left to avoid, missed by 400 or 500 ft. Asked canton/akron approach why they didn't call the traffic (they admitted they could see it on their radar). The reply was that we were nearing the edge of their area! I guess if we hit them outside their area it doesn't count??
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC -- CPR ACFT HAS AN NMAC WITH A C172 THAT THE APCH CTLR HAS ON HIS SCOPE. CPR ACFT EVADES BY TURNING AWAY.
Narrative: CLBING OUT FROM 3G3 ENRTE TO 6500 FT VFR TO LAF AFTER A REFUEL STOP. I CONTACTED AKRON/CANTON APCH IMMEDIATELY AFTER TKOF REQUESTING VFR FLT FOLLOWING IN CLB TO 6500 FT ENRTE TO LAF. AS WE APCHED 3000 FT, WE OBSERVED A CESSNA 172, SAME DIRECTION, ALSO CLBING, TURNED L TO AVOID, MISSED BY 400 OR 500 FT. ASKED CANTON/AKRON APCH WHY THEY DIDN'T CALL THE TFC (THEY ADMITTED THEY COULD SEE IT ON THEIR RADAR). THE REPLY WAS THAT WE WERE NEARING THE EDGE OF THEIR AREA! I GUESS IF WE HIT THEM OUTSIDE THEIR AREA IT DOESN'T COUNT??
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.