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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 309520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199507 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : hcm airport : w75 |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1340 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 309520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : vfr in imc other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Departed W-75 VFR, climbed to 4000 ft MSL and contacted norfolk, va, approach control 118.9 for clearance, was given squawk code and advised to stand by. Since a clearance wasn't given, I had to stay VFR so I initiated a climb to avoid some cumulus buildups -- 6000 ft MSL. When the controller finished this apparent emergency with another aircraft, 5 mins had elapsed and still no clearance. When he finally responded, he questioned my climb to altitude, so I explained my situation. He seemed upset that I didn't notify him of any altitude change. I reminded him that I didn't have a clearance and had to stay VFR. He finally issued my IFR clearance after some negotiation for vectors and direct ofp. Incidentally, I filed for 4000 ft MSL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VFR IN IMC -- AVOIDING WX WHILE WAITING FOR IFR CLRNC.
Narrative: DEPARTED W-75 VFR, CLBED TO 4000 FT MSL AND CONTACTED NORFOLK, VA, APCH CTL 118.9 FOR CLRNC, WAS GIVEN SQUAWK CODE AND ADVISED TO STAND BY. SINCE A CLRNC WASN'T GIVEN, I HAD TO STAY VFR SO I INITIATED A CLB TO AVOID SOME CUMULUS BUILDUPS -- 6000 FT MSL. WHEN THE CTLR FINISHED THIS APPARENT EMER WITH ANOTHER ACFT, 5 MINS HAD ELAPSED AND STILL NO CLRNC. WHEN HE FINALLY RESPONDED, HE QUESTIONED MY CLB TO ALT, SO I EXPLAINED MY SIT. HE SEEMED UPSET THAT I DIDN'T NOTIFY HIM OF ANY ALT CHANGE. I REMINDED HIM THAT I DIDN'T HAVE A CLRNC AND HAD TO STAY VFR. HE FINALLY ISSUED MY IFR CLRNC AFTER SOME NEGOTIATION FOR VECTORS AND DIRECT OFP. INCIDENTALLY, I FILED FOR 4000 FT MSL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.