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Clearance disputed. As the flight crew climbed through FL215 the controller remarked that she thought that they had been cleared to FL200 and then she cleared them to FL280 without further comment.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 302430 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lhy |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw tower : pwk |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zbw |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 302430 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 301902 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Climbing after takeoff from stewart field, newburgh, ny. Passing FL215, ZOB controller asked our climb clearance. We responded FL230. She said she thought she had cleared us to FL200, then she reclred us to FL280. We said we thought it was a FL230 clearance (both pilots agreed) and we had FL230 set in our altitude reminder. No more discussion occurred. We are not aware of any conflicts. There were numerous frequency and heading and altitude changes. Radio reception was ok, but needed several calls down low on climb out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRNC DISPUTED. AS THE FLC CLBED THROUGH FL215 THE CTLR REMARKED THAT SHE THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL200 AND THEN SHE CLRED THEM TO FL280 WITHOUT FURTHER COMMENT.
Narrative: CLBING AFTER TKOF FROM STEWART FIELD, NEWBURGH, NY. PASSING FL215, ZOB CTLR ASKED OUR CLB CLRNC. WE RESPONDED FL230. SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD CLRED US TO FL200, THEN SHE RECLRED US TO FL280. WE SAID WE THOUGHT IT WAS A FL230 CLRNC (BOTH PLTS AGREED) AND WE HAD FL230 SET IN OUR ALT REMINDER. NO MORE DISCUSSION OCCURRED. WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY CONFLICTS. THERE WERE NUMEROUS FREQ AND HDG AND ALT CHANGES. RADIO RECEPTION WAS OK, BUT NEEDED SEVERAL CALLS DOWN LOW ON CLBOUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.