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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 301607 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : vnc |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 17 flight time total : 7300 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 301607 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I entered a left downwind at 800 ft MSL for full-stop landing at venice. I believed I was #3 in traffic, following a piper comanche over the approach end of the runway and a piper seminole on extended final. I announced my presence and intentions on downwind on CTAF and had been listening to reports from the comanche and seminole. When I was again the seminole, I started my turn to base and called base on CTAF. As I started to turn final, I was alerted to cessna traffic by an aircraft waiting to take off. I saw the cessna in my 1 O'clock position, slightly above. I turned right (north) then left (west) and passed beneath and behind the cessna which continued on approach. I went around, parallel to and to the right of runway 13, rejoined traffic, and landed. If the cessna had been reporting as in the aim, I believe the incident would not have happened. Since I had the other 2 airplanes in sight, I did not properly check further out on the final approach for traffic. Extended patterns contribute to this kind of occurrence. My aircraft was a piper warrior, the other, a light-colored, single-engine cessna (152 or 172).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN 2 SMA SEL ACFT, ONE ON FINAL AND THE RPTR TURNING FINAL AT A UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: I ENTERED A L DOWNWIND AT 800 FT MSL FOR FULL-STOP LNDG AT VENICE. I BELIEVED I WAS #3 IN TFC, FOLLOWING A PIPER COMANCHE OVER THE APCH END OF THE RWY AND A PIPER SEMINOLE ON EXTENDED FINAL. I ANNOUNCED MY PRESENCE AND INTENTIONS ON DOWNWIND ON CTAF AND HAD BEEN LISTENING TO RPTS FROM THE COMANCHE AND SEMINOLE. WHEN I WAS AGAIN THE SEMINOLE, I STARTED MY TURN TO BASE AND CALLED BASE ON CTAF. AS I STARTED TO TURN FINAL, I WAS ALERTED TO CESSNA TFC BY AN ACFT WAITING TO TAKE OFF. I SAW THE CESSNA IN MY 1 O'CLOCK POS, SLIGHTLY ABOVE. I TURNED R (N) THEN L (W) AND PASSED BENEATH AND BEHIND THE CESSNA WHICH CONTINUED ON APCH. I WENT AROUND, PARALLEL TO AND TO THE R OF RWY 13, REJOINED TFC, AND LANDED. IF THE CESSNA HAD BEEN RPTING AS IN THE AIM, I BELIEVE THE INCIDENT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. SINCE I HAD THE OTHER 2 AIRPLANES IN SIGHT, I DID NOT PROPERLY CHK FURTHER OUT ON THE FINAL APCH FOR TFC. EXTENDED PATTERNS CONTRIBUTE TO THIS KIND OF OCCURRENCE. MY ACFT WAS A PIPER WARRIOR, THE OTHER, A LIGHT-COLORED, SINGLE-ENG CESSNA (152 OR 172).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.