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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 299442 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ccs |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ccs |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 299442 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | observation : company check pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on vectors to final for ILS approach to runway 9 and cleared approach. On about an 8 mi final at 2000 ft, a foreign air carrier Y appeared at our 10 O'clock position, slightly high. He proceeded to turn final about 1 1/2 mi in front of us. We were talking to approach and the controller never advised us of the traffic. We proceeded to do a left 360 degree, cancel instruments, switch to tower, and complete an uneventful landing to runway 9. Supplemental information from acn 299441: first we were given a descent from 5000 ft to 2000 ft at the mares intersection as we approached on a southerly heading. We were given to turn to a southwest heading. I believe about 230 degrees to intercept the localizer to runway 9L at ccs. Since it was not a valid heading from which an intercept could have been made I corrected the controller and suggested a heading of 150 degrees which she agreed would work. At some point later she made a garbled transmission about the presence of another airplane, a 767. We at once queried her where it was because we did not have it on TCASII. She told us to continue and we were now #2. Then I saw the 767 turning into our path on a tight base above us and about 1 1/2 mi I ahead of us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LTSS FROM FOREIGN B767. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X ON VECTORS TO FINAL FOR ILS APCH TO RWY 9 AND CLRED APCH. ON ABOUT AN 8 MI FINAL AT 2000 FT, A FOREIGN ACR Y APPEARED AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS, SLIGHTLY HIGH. HE PROCEEDED TO TURN FINAL ABOUT 1 1/2 MI IN FRONT OF US. WE WERE TALKING TO APCH AND THE CTLR NEVER ADVISED US OF THE TFC. WE PROCEEDED TO DO A L 360 DEG, CANCEL INSTS, SWITCH TO TWR, AND COMPLETE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG TO RWY 9. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 299441: FIRST WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT FROM 5000 FT TO 2000 FT AT THE MARES INTXN AS WE APCHED ON A SOUTHERLY HDG. WE WERE GIVEN TO TURN TO A SW HDG. I BELIEVE ABOUT 230 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE LOC TO RWY 9L AT CCS. SINCE IT WAS NOT A VALID HDG FROM WHICH AN INTERCEPT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE I CORRECTED THE CTLR AND SUGGESTED A HDG OF 150 DEGS WHICH SHE AGREED WOULD WORK. AT SOME POINT LATER SHE MADE A GARBLED XMISSION ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF ANOTHER AIRPLANE, A 767. WE AT ONCE QUERIED HER WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE IT ON TCASII. SHE TOLD US TO CONTINUE AND WE WERE NOW #2. THEN I SAW THE 767 TURNING INTO OUR PATH ON A TIGHT BASE ABOVE US AND ABOUT 1 1/2 MI I AHEAD OF US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.