<< >> NASA ASRS Report 298765, March 1995

Instrument instructor failed to file at least 1 hour prior to flight into class B airspace with no transponder.

Attributes
ACN	298765
Time
Date	199503
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : clt airport : 3n8
State Reference	NC
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1300 msl bound upper : 3700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : clt
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 970 flight time type : 105
ASRS Report	298765
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Filed an IFR flight plan PA-44/D (no transponder) initial call- up charlotte approach. Negative transponder out of 3n8. Maintain well out of charlotte's class B, a heading of 150 degrees was flown. Radar identify fly this heading clear to mac via radar vectors to a fix? Then as filed. After 10 mins or so approach gave me a message to call this facility. The nature of the call was entering the charlotte class C TCA without a transponder without prior notification 1 hour before. Their action was, if it happened again then I could be violated. I am very grateful that the situation was handled in this manner. I learned a valuable lesson and will never enter a class B airspace without a transponder without 1 hour prior notification. A corrective action that I will pursue is to practice more xcountries into class B airspace, with or without transponder.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: INSTRUMENT INSTRUCTOR FAILED TO FILE AT LEAST 1 HR PRIOR TO FLT INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE WITH NO XPONDER.

Narrative: FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN PA-44/D (NO XPONDER) INITIAL CALL- UP CHARLOTTE APCH. NEGATIVE XPONDER OUT OF 3N8. MAINTAIN WELL OUT OF CHARLOTTE'S CLASS B, A HDG OF 150 DEGS WAS FLOWN. RADAR IDENT FLY THIS HDG CLR TO MAC VIA RADAR VECTORS TO A FIX? THEN AS FILED. AFTER 10 MINS OR SO APCH GAVE ME A MESSAGE TO CALL THIS FACILITY. THE NATURE OF THE CALL WAS ENTERING THE CHARLOTTE CLASS C TCA WITHOUT A XPONDER WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION 1 HR BEFORE. THEIR ACTION WAS, IF IT HAPPENED AGAIN THEN I COULD BE VIOLATED. I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE SIT WAS HANDLED IN THIS MANNER. I LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON AND WILL NEVER ENTER A CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT A XPONDER WITHOUT 1 HR PRIOR NOTIFICATION. A CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT I WILL PURSUE IS TO PRACTICE MORE XCOUNTRIES INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE, WITH OR WITHOUT XPONDER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.