Class B airspace penetration.

Attributes
ACN	296414
Time
Date	199502
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : teb
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : teb
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude landing : missed approach
Route In Use	departure other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 30
ASRS Report	296414
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited penetrated airspace
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While instructing in a piper seminole, I had a situation occur that is in a gray area of the far's. My student and myself had just finished our second of 2 requested instrument approachs at teb. On the beginning of the second approach they cleared us to enter the class 'B' airspace. After finishing this second approach, I told teterboro tower that we would depart the area to the northwest. They told me to stay on the same squawk (which was issued by approach) and cleared as requested. We continued to climb to 2000 ft and before I had noticed we might have skirted the edge of the class 'B' by teterboro which is 1800 ft. I immediately took action and reduced our altitude back to 1700 ft. If we did enter, it was less than 15 seconds. The reason my attention was distracted, was due to me increasing the power on the simulated engine out slowly trying not to over stress the engine since it was minus 5 degree C. I called a pilot's organization and asked them since I was in a radar environment and still squawking the same code, was I legal to re-enter the class 'B' while departing the area. They could not give me an answer.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLASS B AIRSPACE PENETRATION.

Narrative: WHILE INSTRUCTING IN A PIPER SEMINOLE, I HAD A SIT OCCUR THAT IS IN A GRAY AREA OF THE FAR'S. MY STUDENT AND MYSELF HAD JUST FINISHED OUR SECOND OF 2 REQUESTED INSTRUMENT APCHS AT TEB. ON THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND APCH THEY CLRED US TO ENTER THE CLASS 'B' AIRSPACE. AFTER FINISHING THIS SECOND APCH, I TOLD TETERBORO TWR THAT WE WOULD DEPART THE AREA TO THE NW. THEY TOLD ME TO STAY ON THE SAME SQUAWK (WHICH WAS ISSUED BY APCH) AND CLRED AS REQUESTED. WE CONTINUED TO CLB TO 2000 FT AND BEFORE I HAD NOTICED WE MIGHT HAVE SKIRTED THE EDGE OF THE CLASS 'B' BY TETERBORO WHICH IS 1800 FT. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK ACTION AND REDUCED OUR ALT BACK TO 1700 FT. IF WE DID ENTER, IT WAS LESS THAN 15 SECONDS. THE REASON MY ATTN WAS DISTRACTED, WAS DUE TO ME INCREASING THE PWR ON THE SIMULATED ENG OUT SLOWLY TRYING NOT TO OVER STRESS THE ENG SINCE IT WAS MINUS 5 DEG C. I CALLED A PLT'S ORGANIZATION AND ASKED THEM SINCE I WAS IN A RADAR ENVIRONMENT AND STILL SQUAWKING THE SAME CODE, WAS I LEGAL TO RE-ENTER THE CLASS 'B' WHILE DEPARTING THE AREA. THEY COULD NOT GIVE ME AN ANSWER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.