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Air carrier X non adherence to ATC instruction reduced speed without informing controller. Speed deviation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 294273 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199501 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : phl |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340B |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 1801 flight time type : 275 |
| ASRS Report | 294273 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X being vectored to ILS runway 9L at phl. We were asked to maintain 180 KTS to the marker (165 final flap speed). Marker (FAF) is at 7 mi. At 10 mi the captain wanted to configure to be configured by the marker. I questioned and asked if he wanted me to tell ATC we were slowing. He said no. At 8 mi ATC asked airspeed. I said 160 KTS. He said 180 KTS to the marker. I said we can't, we need to configure. He sounded as though he wanted to know why we slowed. Hindsight: I should have taken the initiative and spoke up. Also, in the current WX conditions, I didn't feel as though it was the right time to get into it with the captain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC INSTRUCTION REDUCED SPD WITHOUT INFORMING CTLR. SPD DEV.
Narrative: ACR X BEING VECTORED TO ILS RWY 9L AT PHL. WE WERE ASKED TO MAINTAIN 180 KTS TO THE MARKER (165 FINAL FLAP SPD). MARKER (FAF) IS AT 7 MI. AT 10 MI THE CAPT WANTED TO CONFIGURE TO BE CONFIGURED BY THE MARKER. I QUESTIONED AND ASKED IF HE WANTED ME TO TELL ATC WE WERE SLOWING. HE SAID NO. AT 8 MI ATC ASKED AIRSPD. I SAID 160 KTS. HE SAID 180 KTS TO THE MARKER. I SAID WE CAN'T, WE NEED TO CONFIGURE. HE SOUNDED AS THOUGH HE WANTED TO KNOW WHY WE SLOWED. HINDSIGHT: I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE AND SPOKE UP. ALSO, IN THE CURRENT WX CONDITIONS, I DIDN'T FEEL AS THOUGH IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME TO GET INTO IT WITH THE CAPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.