Pilot unable to get current NOTAMS when preparing for an IFR flight.

Attributes
ACN	287688
Time
Date	199411
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 200 flight time type : 100
ASRS Report	287688
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Chart Or Publication
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Publication	Unspecified

Narrative:

My flying club subscribes to the class ii NOTAMS. Delivery is usually late. In early nov/94 I was planning an IFR flight and the club's latest had expired in oct/94. I called the new york FSS and they didn't have a current edition either. I was forced to make an IFR flight using only distant NOTAMS and the airport facilities directory. Far 91.103 states that all available information must be used when planning a flight. Recommendation: make class ii NOTAMS available through computer distribution just like fdc and distant NOTAMS. Should also be available on duats. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states his major concern was for the fdc NOTAMS since he was on an IFR flight plan and would have no knowledge of a VOR OTS or any other NAVAID problems. Analyst suggested he use the hotline and that the flying club write to the address of the subscription to complain of the late service.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT UNABLE TO GET CURRENT NOTAMS WHEN PREPARING FOR AN IFR FLT.

Narrative: MY FLYING CLUB SUBSCRIBES TO THE CLASS II NOTAMS. DELIVERY IS USUALLY LATE. IN EARLY NOV/94 I WAS PLANNING AN IFR FLT AND THE CLUB'S LATEST HAD EXPIRED IN OCT/94. I CALLED THE NEW YORK FSS AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CURRENT EDITION EITHER. I WAS FORCED TO MAKE AN IFR FLT USING ONLY DISTANT NOTAMS AND THE ARPT FACILITIES DIRECTORY. FAR 91.103 STATES THAT ALL AVAILABLE INFO MUST BE USED WHEN PLANNING A FLT. RECOMMENDATION: MAKE CLASS II NOTAMS AVAILABLE THROUGH COMPUTER DISTRIBUTION JUST LIKE FDC AND DISTANT NOTAMS. SHOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON DUATS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HIS MAJOR CONCERN WAS FOR THE FDC NOTAMS SINCE HE WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN AND WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF A VOR OTS OR ANY OTHER NAVAID PROBS. ANALYST SUGGESTED HE USE THE HOTLINE AND THAT THE FLYING CLUB WRITE TO THE ADDRESS OF THE SUBSCRIPTION TO COMPLAIN OF THE LATE SVC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.