Operational deviation.

Attributes
ACN	284985
Time
Date	199410
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : hnl
State Reference	HI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 200
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : hnl
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-10 10
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing : go around
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 390
ASRS Report	284985
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 297
ASRS Report	285141
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 1500 vertical : 1250
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation

Narrative:

During visual approach (ILS backup) to runway 8L at hnl (5 NM in trail behind 747), tower cleared a beech D-18 for takeoff from approach end of runway 8L after 747 had cleared the runway. Our dc-10 (configured for landing) was indicating approximately 140 KTS. In my 30 yrs of flying into and out of hnl, I have never seen a beech D-18 takeoff from the approach end of runway 8L (12357 ft remaining). I suspect the tower controller had not either. The closure rate between our dc-10 and the beech D-18 was remarkable (rapid). Our dc-10 flight crew elected to go around. While maintaining visual separation with the beech D-18, we may have inadvertently missed a 1500 ft altitude clearance (we still can't be sure) and climbed to ATC assigned 3000 ft altitude. Rate of acceleration of beech D-18 on its takeoff roll should have been factored into this situation by ATC (beech d- 18 should not have cleared for takeoff). Supplemental information from acn 285141: received further approach landing instructions and landed on runway 8L. Aircraft may have been affected on its takeoff roll by wake turbulence from the landing B-747. It should not have been cleared for takeoff between 2 landing 'heavies' because of performance differences.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: OPDEV.

Narrative: DURING VISUAL APCH (ILS BACKUP) TO RWY 8L AT HNL (5 NM IN TRAIL BEHIND 747), TWR CLRED A BEECH D-18 FOR TKOF FROM APCH END OF RWY 8L AFTER 747 HAD CLRED THE RWY. OUR DC-10 (CONFIGURED FOR LNDG) WAS INDICATING APPROX 140 KTS. IN MY 30 YRS OF FLYING INTO AND OUT OF HNL, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BEECH D-18 TKOF FROM THE APCH END OF RWY 8L (12357 FT REMAINING). I SUSPECT THE TWR CTLR HAD NOT EITHER. THE CLOSURE RATE BTWN OUR DC-10 AND THE BEECH D-18 WAS REMARKABLE (RAPID). OUR DC-10 FLC ELECTED TO GAR. WHILE MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION WITH THE BEECH D-18, WE MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY MISSED A 1500 FT ALT CLRNC (WE STILL CAN'T BE SURE) AND CLBED TO ATC ASSIGNED 3000 FT ALT. RATE OF ACCELERATION OF BEECH D-18 ON ITS TKOF ROLL SHOULD HAVE BEEN FACTORED INTO THIS SIT BY ATC (BEECH D- 18 SHOULD NOT HAVE CLRED FOR TKOF). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 285141: RECEIVED FURTHER APCH LNDG INSTRUCTIONS AND LANDED ON RWY 8L. ACFT MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED ON ITS TKOF ROLL BY WAKE TURB FROM THE LNDG B-747. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF BTWN 2 LNDG 'HEAVIES' BECAUSE OF PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.