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An airport users group wants to change the name of an IAP to reduce confusion with another fix nearby.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 283042 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199409 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pwl airport : 20n |
| State Reference | NY |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 283042 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
1 of the initial approach fix intxns for the new kingston, ny, VOR-a siap is defined as jogyl. We don't know what the 'official' pronunciation is for this intersection, but some pilots and controllers might pronounce it 'jo-gull.' we believe that might be verbally confused with the jugle intersection, which is usually pronounced 'jew-gull' and which is part of the nearby poughkeepsie, ny, VOR DME runway 24 siap. Each of these intxns is defined by a radial from the pawling VOR (pwl) and a radial from the kingston VOR (ign). We recommend you reconsider the name of this new intersection. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: since the mid-september date of the reporter's letter to the ASRS, the reporter has talked with the tower supervisor at dutchess county airport at poughkeepsie. The tower chief agrees that there is a problem and is helping to change 'jogyl' to 'palen.' no date has been set for the completion of this change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ARPT USERS GROUP WANTS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF AN IAP TO REDUCE CONFUSION WITH ANOTHER FIX NEARBY.
Narrative: 1 OF THE INITIAL APCH FIX INTXNS FOR THE NEW KINGSTON, NY, VOR-A SIAP IS DEFINED AS JOGYL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 'OFFICIAL' PRONUNCIATION IS FOR THIS INTXN, BUT SOME PLTS AND CTLRS MIGHT PRONOUNCE IT 'JO-GULL.' WE BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE VERBALLY CONFUSED WITH THE JUGLE INTXN, WHICH IS USUALLY PRONOUNCED 'JEW-GULL' AND WHICH IS PART OF THE NEARBY POUGHKEEPSIE, NY, VOR DME RWY 24 SIAP. EACH OF THESE INTXNS IS DEFINED BY A RADIAL FROM THE PAWLING VOR (PWL) AND A RADIAL FROM THE KINGSTON VOR (IGN). WE RECOMMEND YOU RECONSIDER THE NAME OF THIS NEW INTXN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: SINCE THE MID-SEPTEMBER DATE OF THE RPTR'S LETTER TO THE ASRS, THE RPTR HAS TALKED WITH THE TWR SUPVR AT DUTCHESS COUNTY ARPT AT POUGHKEEPSIE. THE TWR CHIEF AGREES THAT THERE IS A PROB AND IS HELPING TO CHANGE 'JOGYL' TO 'PALEN.' NO DATE HAS BEEN SET FOR THE COMPLETION OF THIS CHANGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.